UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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To me, the driver drill would be the easiest part, as you don't have to memorize anything.
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To me, the driver drill would be the easiest part, as you don't have to memorize anything.
That's more important than reciting the DOK. That's what you NEED to be able to do.
Indecisi0n
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Did More than what was needed as well. Just keep talking. Most of the time the intstructor isn't even paying attention to what's going on since he has to write down everything your saying. So just keep talking and remember driveways are intersections.
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pickup
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He's got a point, Ups claims talking on a cellphone while driving is distracted driving( which I agree with ) but somehow giving up some of your attention to spit out ups jargon and give a tour guide's verbal description of what is going on while driving a vehicle you are not familiar with isn't distracted driving???
Please.
To the original poster, I am sorry about your experience but as others said, learn from it. You now have a year to get this into your head.
Indecisi0n
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I never do any safety questions while driving during my annual safety rides. I tell the sup we can stop now and I'll do them or we can do them at the end of the night. I have not once gotten any negative response from a sup. Only thing I do while driving is the driver drill.
The Driver
I drive.
Felt like I was going to cause an accident trying to do the driver drill last week on my yearly. Divides the attention.
Having a supervisor with you is probably the biggest in-cab distraction.
Nope. No-one in Feeders knows that crap. When the sup is with me, I'll give it an honest try to spout all that, but all I really know is the AGKLM part.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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A professional driver should have no problem describing what is right in front of him or her and still be able to focus on what they are doing.
ManInBrown
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We had to do DOK word for word when I went to class or you failed. I had about 20 people in my class. A few failed the driving part. And a few failed the DOK.
Whenever I have a safety ride and they start to explain the driver drill to me I always say, you're distracting me. I'll pull over then we can have a nice talk. Or when we drive out to area and they start to spew stuff I always say the same. And I get the same response, no we'll do it later. Which we never do. I understand having to do that stuff to get the job, but once you have it spewing stuff like a robot is worthless. I Implement the DOK everyday on the rode. That's a little more important then spewing it out like a robot.
Whenever I have a safety ride and they start to explain the driver drill to me I always say, you're distracting me. I'll pull over then we can have a nice talk. Or when we drive out to area and they start to spew stuff I always say the same. And I get the same response, no we'll do it later. Which we never do. I understand having to do that stuff to get the job, but once you have it spewing stuff like a robot is worthless. I Implement the DOK everyday on the rode. That's a little more important then spewing it out like a robot.
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OrioN
double tap o da horn dooshbag
not all professionals can do that... similar to this:
i tried doing that driver drill part on my own, and yes, it detracts my focus from the road, similar to those drivers with those bluetooth ear pieces who's talking while driving... cant do that either. i am already thinking about "dirty mirrors" or clear intersections or stale green lights in my head, just spouting it out is a different task... takes practice & agrees that it should be practiced in your personal vehicles while you're commuting to/from work
Manbrownie, if those aspiring drivers just have the "drive" to become a brownie driver, they should have learned the DOK even before signing up to go to integrad. driving part was done in a p500 or a p700? i know they won't have the p1000 or p1200 for that...
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I do. Ever turn on an appliance in your house and you can see that the lights dimmed slightly? Talking and trying to convey what you are seeing is dimming the lights so to speak. By talking, you are diminishing the energy that should be going to the areas of the brain that are being used in navigation and observation.
That's just my opinion.
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pickup
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not all professionals can do that... similar to this:
i tried doing that driver drill part on my own, and yes, it detracts my focus from the road, similar to those drivers with those bluetooth ear pieces who's talking while driving... cant do that either.
Manbrownie, if those aspiring drivers just have the "drive" to become a brownie driver, they should have learned the DOK even before signing up to go to integrad. driving part was done in a p500 or a p700? i know they won't have the p1000 or p1200 for that...
I agree 1528.67 percent.
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pickup
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not all professionals can do that... similar to this:
i tried doing that driver drill part on my own, and yes, it detracts my focus from the road, similar to those drivers with those bluetooth ear pieces who's talking while driving... cant do that either. i am already thinking about "dirty mirrors" or clear intersections or stale green lights in my head, just spouting it out is a different task... takes practice & agrees that it should be practiced in your personal vehicles while you're commuting to/from work
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Let just add to this by using an example of a professional athlete having to verbally say what he is doing or looking for while operating under game time conditions.
Can you imagine Tom Brady, after snapping the ball, conveying to Bellicheck over a built in mic , how he is doing his footwork mechanics, what he is looking for in terms of open receivers, how he is taking the path of least resistance when dodging a tackler?
Do you think that his performance might suffer?
I'm talking to those who believe these classroom drills have no effect when the driver is forced to recite them while driving.
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
20 yrs safe driver, and I would fail intergrad if I had to go at this point , I can't receite that crap, but I do it everyday !
ManInBrown
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Bingo. It's just another thing they use to mess with us. Anyone with a brain knows it's way more important to implement the DOK in real life, then to spew it out like a robot.
We don't hear about it much here other than when they think Keter might be coming around. A couple years ago it was the flavor of the month. They were calling one or two drivers into the office at the end of the day to test them. I went in and knew about 60% of it. Gave me a sheet and told me to study up, and I would have to do it again in a few weeks. Never was asked to do it again
Analbumcover
ControlPkgs
At generic non-Integrad driving school we just had to write the stuff. We were supposed to go out and recite it but the "safety bus" was on the other side of the state and the hub manager never showed up to verbally test us. All the other reg-temps tell me I got lucky. Guess so.
OrioN
double tap o da horn dooshbag
in hindsight ~ don't say that word, say "dirty"
one less syllable & easier to spit it out like a tommy gun, yo!
or make it fun next time...
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