Drivers forced to work Christmas day

BigUnionGuy · Dec 22, 2013

25plus said:
Notice that section 4 has a special exclusion for Labor day...the union has to agree to the forcing of drivers on that day. What a joke, Labor day is protected but not Christmas!

Come on....

You really can't understand the significance.... of a Labor Union....

Making a contractual exclusion.... for Labor Day ??

-Bug-

tonyexpress · Dec 22, 2013

over9five said:
Definitely not challenging anyone. Could have sworn..... Anyhow, again, my apologies.
It's Peak, long hours, tired, dain bramaged....

Imagine if you were in package and not feedah for peak... :consoling:

over9five · Dec 22, 2013

tonyexpress said:
Imagine if you were in package and not feedah for peak...

Even though the physical work would be harder, there's a lot to be said for being able to sleep when it's night-time.

cheryl · Dec 22, 2013

over9five said:
Even though the physical work would be harder, there's a lot to be said for being able to sleep when it's night-time.

Yep, I worked graveyard shift keying in zipcodes on a letter sorting machine for the post office when I was in my early 20's. Peak season is overwhelming there too. I felt like a zombie but the paychecks that time of year were great.
:zombismiley:

ZQXC · Dec 22, 2013

cachsux said:
Mommy and Daddy, please stop fighting.

It's Christmas, the children...........

toonertoo · Dec 22, 2013

over9five said:
Why did a thread about UPS forcing drivers to work Christmas get moved to the Union forum?

I think because people want union people answering to if they have to work a holiday.

toonertoo · Dec 22, 2013

If we are forced, I would most likely volunteer, to let a younger person with kids stay home. No company loyalty, just how I feel.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Dec 22, 2013

toonertoo said:
If we are forced, I would most likely volunteer, to let a younger person with kids stay home. No company loyalty, just how I feel.

Same here.

Johney · Dec 22, 2013

toonertoo said:
If we are forced, I would most likely volunteer, to let a younger person with kids stay home. No company loyalty, just how I feel.

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Same here.

The problem with both of your thinking while kindhearted, they would most likely have you all both volunteer yet still make the junior driver with young kids work. I gave up on that type of thinking years ago.

16tons · Dec 22, 2013

toonertoo said:
If we are forced, I would most likely volunteer, to let a younger person with kids stay home. No company loyalty, just how I feel.

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Same here.

My 1st peak as a father didn't seem any different, until xmas eve service at church. It was time for her to go to the kids service and my father in law wanted to take her and she loves him. But she refused anyone but her daddy. I just about broke down realizing how hard peak was on this 2 year old little girl. So whether or not you volunteer or not, your offering has not gone unnoticed. Thank You.

toonertoo · Dec 22, 2013

Johney said:
The problem with both of your thinking while kindhearted, they would most likely have you all both volunteer yet still make the junior driver with young kids work. I gave up on that type of thinking years ago.

If it did not automatically release a younger driver with kids, I would not work. My experience with day after Thanksgiving, and New years eve, it does. My family is gone, and to be with them I have to wait for a week off. Im not a hero, just an adult with no plans, and can celebrate when I get home. No young ones waiting on me. I was there at one time tho, and older drivers did the same for me. Its like an unwritten rule, where I come from.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Dec 22, 2013

Johney said:
The problem with both of your thinking while kindhearted, they would most likely have you all both volunteer yet still make the junior driver with young kids work. I gave up on that type of thinking years ago.

I volunteered to work on the 26th. Yeah, I know it is a regular workday, but they posted a sign up sheet looking for 20 drivers because it should be only send agains and whatever air is in the system. I will be upset if I count 21 heads on the 26th as the only reason I signed up is so that a younger driver could spend the day with his family. My son will be snowboarding and we will get together later that night for dinner.

Johney · Dec 22, 2013

toonertoo said:
If it did not automatically release a younger driver with kids, I would not work. My experience with day after Thanksgiving, and New years eve, it does. My family is gone, and to be with them I have to wait for a week off. Im not a hero, just an adult with no plans, and can celebrate when I get home. No young ones waiting on me. I was there at one time tho, and older drivers did the same for me. Its like an unwritten rule, where I come from.

That wouldn't fly around here, sad but true.

Johney · Dec 22, 2013

UpstateNYUPSer said:
I volunteered to work on the 26th. Yeah, I know it is a regular workday, but they posted a sign up sheet looking for 20 drivers because it should be only send agains and whatever air is in the system. I will be upset if I count 21 heads on the 26th as the only reason I signed up is so that a younger driver could spend the day with his family. My son will be snowboarding and we will get together later that night for dinner.

What's sad in our building is they will lay off all the junior drivers and make all the top guys work on the 26th.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Dec 22, 2013

Quick read this! before it is deleted! :censored2:

Johney · Dec 22, 2013

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U said:
Quick read this! before it is deleted!

Missed it.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Dec 22, 2013

Johney said:
Missed it.

Exactly

...lol

Anonymous 10 · Dec 22, 2013

25plus said:
The idiots who under-staffed our hub this peak season are considering forcing delivery drivers to work on Christmas day. Two questions...

1 When (at the latest) would they have to tell us that we are forced.
2 Would you work it if they forced you?.... or just not show up.

Jesus would want me to hang with Noah and Grace on this day. I know this for sure. As he's biblical so are they. Merry CHRISTmas.

brownmonster · Dec 22, 2013

Doing all this BS for the sake of a few extra gifts under the tree is ridiculous . My wife and I are ready to snap trying to satisfy people with useless gifts they won't look at 5 minutes after they are opened. Bah-Fargin-Humbug.

Anonymous 10 · Dec 22, 2013

kingOFchester said:
Scott Davis said pre peak that volume would be up. He stated that it was the shortest period between Turkey day and Christmas. He stated that they would staff with the same number of seasonal hires as 2012, and cram more work into fewer days, which "could make the network run more efficiently".

He also stated an ice storm during peak would be hard to make up. Yea, that is a great CEO. Taking a gamble on weather.

How did that cramming thing work out Scott? How about the role of the dice with the weather? How much did UPS save by hiring the same number of seasonal hires this peak as you had in 2012?

"If you get an ice storm in Louisville one of those days, it's going to be hard to make up for,"

"UPS executives said that this year's late Thanksgiving holiday, Nov. 28, will be a challenge. Cramming holiday shipments into fewer days could make the network run more efficiently, they said, but it raises the stakes if there's a disruption."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ups-more-doubles-3q-profit-121827804.html

That's our leader and these people want to smash Hoffa. Figureheads aren't worth their weight in salt. Take it to the bank.

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