Drivers with shoulder and neck injuries from non-power steering vehicles

dville

New Member
Hi I`m a full-time Driver of 22 years. As of Feb 2006 my statious became disabled. I was driving a P-500 when this accured. My accidental injury was a full rotator cuff tear to my left shoulder. A P-500 vehicle is also the cause of accidental injuries to my right shoulder and neck in Dec 2003. This type of vehicle, non-power steering, non-power brakes, streight-shift, old rundown, may be linked to pain in your hands and fingers (carpal-tunnel syndrome). Our jobs are demanding enough without adding the worry of the vehicle you are driving being a hazzard to your health. Anyone else feeling my PAIN???
 

Slothrop

Well-Known Member
Yes. Been gone three years, but still in pain every day.

A bit of advice, get the best workers comp lawyer in your state, you'll need him. Do whatever it takes to get in the minimum time required to collect a pension. If this means going in and working a couple of days a year to get credit, do it.

UPS will deny any and all repetitive motion injury claims. They will attempt to starve you out. They will hire private investigators to follow you. They will postpone court dates to prolong your agony.

Good luck, you'll need it.
 
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In Pain every day

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Hi I`m a full-time Driver of 22 years. As of Feb 2006 my statious became disabled. I was driving a P-500 when this accured. My accidental injury was a full rotator cuff tear to my left shoulder. A P-500 vehicle is also the cause of accidental injuries to my right shoulder and neck in Dec 2003. This type of vehicle, non-power steering, non-power brakes, streight-shift, old rundown, may be linked to pain in your hands and fingers (carpal-tunnel syndrome). Our jobs are demanding enough without adding the worry of the vehicle you are driving being a hazzard to your health. Anyone else feeling my PAIN???

you can get the info you need to push.The company has a protocol in print 90lbs manual 45lbs power on there steering. take it from me 2 torn rotators, 2 broken collar bones, and 1 broken biceps tendon.I was threatened because i bent a steering wheel. 5 dvir s from other drivers sounded to much like a trouble in my dismisal
 
First and foremost get a credited Orthopedic doctor/surgeon. He will override any general physician. They fixed my C.P. without any trouble after I did all the testing they asked. My shoulder they drag their feet on but gave in after the specialists they sent me to gave me tighter restrictions than my Doc, Do`h!. 18 mths out but came back with no further trouble, 75k settlement on the arm.
 

satellitedriver

Moderator
Hi I`m a full-time Driver of 22 years. As of Feb 2006 my statious became disabled. I was driving a P-500 when this accured. My accidental injury was a full rotator cuff tear to my left shoulder. A P-500 vehicle is also the cause of accidental injuries to my right shoulder and neck in Dec 2003. This type of vehicle, non-power steering, non-power brakes, streight-shift, old rundown, may be linked to pain in your hands and fingers (carpal-tunnel syndrome). Our jobs are demanding enough without adding the worry of the vehicle you are driving being a hazzard to your health. Anyone else feeling my PAIN???

The exact opposite thing happen to me. I am a 20yr driver. Everytime I moved my left arm I could hear and feel grinding at the shoulder joint. If I extended my left arm and tried to grab something behind me the pain was sharp and my grasp was weak. I was driving a P32, then they sent down an old P5 because the roads I drive on beat the heck out that P32. After one week of having to muscle the steering wheel I realized I had no more pain in my shoulder. I assume, I broke lose some calcium deposit or what ever was causing the pain and the grinding. Now I just look at it as a good upper body workout.
 

jlphotog

Well-Known Member
I have only been around UPS for 5+ months but have been driving a P5 the entire time. Could this be the reason my hands hurt? Especially my right hand, in particular the knuckle at the base of the pinky finger. For the past 3 or 4 weeks, every morning when I wake up that finger is locked in the closed position and I have to force it open.

I leave my hand under the hot running water in the bath tub for about 30 seconds and this really seems to help. But the pain never goes away fully, no matter what I try. It's starting to worry me a bit.
 

mpeedy

Well-Known Member
I have only been around UPS for 5+ months but have been driving a P5 the entire time. Could this be the reason my hands hurt? Especially my right hand, in particular the knuckle at the base of the pinky finger. For the past 3 or 4 weeks, every morning when I wake up that finger is locked in the closed position and I have to force it open.

I leave my hand under the hot running water in the bath tub for about 30 seconds and this really seems to help. But the pain never goes away fully, no matter what I try. It's starting to worry me a bit.

If you noticed the steering wheel is not centered on your body when sitting down. The steering wheel is usually more toward your right.
I just mention this so you are aware that you are not giving the steering the equal amount of pressure from both hands.
The p-5's also have a slightly different steering wheel that is almost like a buses. You might have the seat to low and this is causing your finger too much strain when pulling the steeing-wheel towards yourself.
I suggest you take the car to the shop and have them raise the seat 1 notch to start. To raise or lower the seat on the older cars is done by removing a bolt on the seat-post. Going up might relieve some straighn from your finger.
To raise or lower the seat is 1 of the bad designs of the older cars. It makes it impossible to adjust the seat up or down without tools.
 

tieguy

Banned
I often find my penis does not respond the way I would prefer due to the fact I work too many hours and don't get to use it enough on the misses. Should I also apply for disability or perhaps ask for a medical leave of abscence so I have the opportunity to use my penis more. How should I approach this subject with the misses.
Should I say "honey I have a few rare days off and we need to make as much use of my penis as possible" or should I offer its services should she get the urge to do so? Should I run around the house naked and allow the penis the opportunity to react naturally or should I force it to perform as the wife feels the need. Is there a reference guide I can acquire on the proper care and use of the penis. thanks in advance for your advice.
 

30andout

Well-Known Member
I often find my penis does not respond the way I would prefer due to the fact I work too many hours and don't get to use it enough on the misses. Should I also apply for disability or perhaps ask for a medical leave of abscence so I have the opportunity to use my penis more. How should I approach this subject with the misses.
Should I say "honey I have a few rare days off and we need to make as much use of my penis as possible" or should I offer its services should she get the urge to do so? Should I run around the house naked and allow the penis the opportunity to react naturally or should I force it to perform as the wife feels the need. Is there a reference guide I can acquire on the proper care and use of the penis. thanks in advance for your advice.
After a post like that you live up to being just another TIE, sounds like your all penis.
 

trickpony1

Well-Known Member
Yet another twisted analogy from management.

Some questions to ponder before you apply for disability:

Is your penis an integral component of your job functions?
Do you use it 8-11 hours a day climbing in/out of a company vehicle?
Do you force it to exert itself moving heavy packages that are anywhere from floor level to above head level?
Have you trained it to position itself at the 10 and 2 position on the steering wheel to assure control and proper leverage on some non-power steering vehicles?
Does it experience duress, pain or fatique when opening/closing the back door of your package car?
Have you ever used it for anything else?
Have you trained it on the "HABITS" program?
Do you stretch it everyday?
 

Izzy

New Member
I am recooping from my second shoulder repair, rotator cuff and biceps tendon. After 28 years, I now look back at all the jerking on bulk head doors that didn't work right, moving packages to the ready area with my arm above my shoulder, loading heavy bundles over my head, to steering package cars and then feeders without power steering. They have more money for lawyers than I do so at this point I just turn it into our insurance and go on disability. I got tired of fighting with them to get care and pain relief.
 

helenofcalifornia

Well-Known Member
Good God!!!! Feeder trucks don't have power steering??? How much money did the company save by not having power steering in ANY of the trucks? How many shoulders have been strained, torn, etc. by this one decision? I had several injuries in my late 40's, early 50's and was mocked for all the time I had to take off. Now I see that those that mocked me now entering into their late 40's. early 50's are having similiar injuries. We the workers are just a statistic to UPS. Sorry about sounding so maudlin, but I just got home after a Christmas load and am sore. Am icing my knee now.
 

trickpony1

Well-Known Member
Amen sister!
The feeder trucks DID NOT have power steering until approximately 1991 or 92, somewhere in that time frame.
Imagine how many shoulders got torn up in that time.
I realize there are some young, innocent, wide-eyed and bulletproof posters here that can't magine ever having anything happening to them and will deny that the company would ever do such a thing.
I'm just speaking from personal observation.
 

over9five

Moderator
Staff member
I heard they used to save $18 having the power steering in a package car deleted for credit when they bought it.

Cheapest ship in the shipping business....
 

satellitedriver

Moderator
I often find my penis does not respond the way I would prefer due to the fact I work too many hours and don't get to use it enough on the misses. Should I also apply for disability or perhaps ask for a medical leave of abscence so I have the opportunity to use my penis more. How should I approach this subject with the misses.
Should I say "honey I have a few rare days off and we need to make as much use of my penis as possible" or should I offer its services should she get the urge to do so? Should I run around the house naked and allow the penis the opportunity to react naturally or should I force it to perform as the wife feels the need. Is there a reference guide I can acquire on the proper care and use of the penis. thanks in advance for your advice.
Having a bad day or a bad night?
 

hoser

Industrial Slob
I often find my penis does not respond the way I would prefer due to the fact I work too many hours and don't get to use it enough on the misses. Should I also apply for disability or perhaps ask for a medical leave of abscence so I have the opportunity to use my penis more. How should I approach this subject with the misses.
Should I say "honey I have a few rare days off and we need to make as much use of my penis as possible" or should I offer its services should she get the urge to do so? Should I run around the house naked and allow the penis the opportunity to react naturally or should I force it to perform as the wife feels the need. Is there a reference guide I can acquire on the proper care and use of the penis. thanks in advance for your advice.
I thought all that physical activity would help. Not only does your stamina go up when physically active, you're too busy to even think of that kinda stuff. Keeps the hands off :wink:
 
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