Employee Thefts Are Way Up

[MrFedEx]

FedEx has had it's share of theft rings too, where management and hourlies conspire together and make a plan. Over the years, I've seen or heard of drug rings, ticket scams, gold and jewelry thefts. The managers would hook-up with hourlies (like handlers) who would go through the residential pkgs on Saturdays or other "off" times where the building was empty. The drugs, jewelry, tickets, etc would then be sold off and the profits divided. Cameras have helped slow it down, but the smart ones know how to evade them. Most get caught, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are some long-term criminals out there. I know of one courier who had been ripping off stuff for years, and it took them a long time to get him. He'd only take 1 item, and only occasionally, methodically going through electronics boxes after slitting them with a blade.

 

[FedExer267]

I'm sorry that your brother-in-law is a crap employee. Not my fault, but I'm sorry anyway.

Those sound like fighting words thats not cool even for you bbsam. Does this go to show how much you really care for your employees Its real sad!!! They are not mules but human beings with families just trying to make in todays world why don't you do something positive for them and give them some benefits or a paid vacation after all that would be the right thing to do

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Bbsam=Thief

Calling someone a thief without basis is uncalled for. bbsam is a smart businessman, which is evident if you take the time to read some of his other posts. I personally do not agree with the contractor model on a moral basis but it makes a ton of sense from a business perspective. bbsam is simply getting the most out of his contract with FedEx and his employees. Dave.

 

[bbsam]

Those sound like fighting words thats not cool even for you bbsam. Does this go to show how much you really care for your employees Its real sad!!! They are not mules but human beings with families just trying to make in todays world why don't you do something positive for them and give them some benefits or a paid vacation after all that would be the right thing to do

Brown has little regard for Ground and compared our drivers to ther German UPS driver whom he called "crap employees". Therefore, knowing his brother-in-law is a Ground driver, I figured Brown must equate him with also being a "crap employee". I am more than content to allow any and all Express, and UPS personel consider themselves superior to me and my drivers. People can call it a scam and declare it illegal, but until the law changes or the Supreme Court decides differently, all those claims are personal opinions that mean little.

 

[bbsam]

I never presummed that your vehicle was not registered or even a recognised vehicle in the Fed-ex fleet, my point was that you took great pleasure in the fact that you were getting one over Fed-Ex. Maybe you should go back over your post. As far as my agenda is concerned, Ground is a scam. Tax paying citizens across this country are forced to subsidize your employees due to the fact that swet shop contractors like yourself refuse to pay a decent wage or provide benefits. Ironically you claim to be a capitalist taking advantage of a legal form of doing business, you give yourself far too much credit. Your nothing more than an opportunist who seeks out scruppulous form of making money and proffiting from it. Dont worry Bbscam your days are numbered and when Fed-Ex puts you out to pasture look me up, Ill have you do some yard work for me.

Maybe UPS could hire all my drivers away from me. Maybe you could enlighten the courts as to how ground is a scam; they seem unable to come to that consensus. Maybe my employees could all go work somewhere else. Perhaps you could explain to the business world how contracting is not a legal form of business. Probably none of that will happen. I do, however, enjoy yard work (or did you think I would consider that below me?). I hope the economy is as good for you as it has been for me.

 

[MrFedEx]

Maybe UPS could hire all my drivers away from me. Maybe you could enlighten the courts as to how ground is a scam; they seem unable to come to that consensus. Maybe my employees could all go work somewhere else. Perhaps you could explain to the business world how contracting is not a legal form of business. Probably none of that will happen. I do, however, enjoy yard work (or did you think I would consider that below me?). I hope the economy is as good for you as it has been for me.

Contracting is legal when it's done legally. That is the big question of the day, isn't it? And you are correct that consensus is unlikely anytime soon. That still leaves the decision as to who is right wide open. FedEx takes 2 steps forward, and then some state sends them 2 steps back.

While I don't disagree you're a good businessman, the larger question isn't really you....it's the FedEx business model. You're making the best of the situation, which is what capitalism is all about. However, one of the supposed pillars of capitalism in this country is that it's a square deal all-around, and I don't think anyone can call the original RPS plan "fair". I knew a bunch of RPS guys who were working 60+ hrs a week and netting only about $25,000 per year. Sure, some were lousy businessmen, but a lot of others were not and realized the hosing they were getting. This continued when FedEx purchased RPS and continued the model. There were many ads in local papers practically begging someone to purchase the route and the truck for pennies on the dollar. This went on for a long time as people got-in and then got-out as soon as they figured out what was really going on.

FedEx kept the RPS model as long as they could because it allowed them to simultaneously push an incredible array of costs onto the "contractor" and undercut the competition on rates. Whether or not they eventually win in court, FedEx has some explaining to do about the years dating from the purchase of RPS until they were forced to change aspects of the original model under extreme pressure.

No matter what the division, FedEx never relents until forced to do so by the power of the law. That's just how they do business.

 

[Dis-organized Labor]

you better believe what i tell you!!!!

That's for the unionized mechanics on the "2727 Update" thread.
It's my "UPS Manager" image

 

[Dis-organized Labor]

Those sound like fighting words thats not cool even for you bbsam. Does this go to show how much you really care for your employees Its real sad!!! They are not mules but human beings with families just trying to make in todays world why don't you do something positive for them and give them some benefits or a paid vacation after all that would be the right thing to do

I resemble that remark!!!

 

[Brown287]

Maybe UPS could hire all my drivers away from me. Maybe you could enlighten the courts as to how ground is a scam; they seem unable to come to that consensus. Maybe my employees could all go work somewhere else. Perhaps you could explain to the business world how contracting is not a legal form of business. Probably none of that will happen. I do, however, enjoy yard work (or did you think I would consider that below me?). I hope the economy is as good for you as it has been for me.

I guess your done trying to prove yourself as ethical. The economy has been great for me and my family thank you for the concern. As far as your profitering in this invironment, all I can say is injoy while you can. By the way Bbscam its not my brother in-law its my brother, and he does work in an ethical manner. He like other Ground drivers though have thier limitations in what they will do for your level of compensation and that my friend is far more powerfull then any court or form of legislation.

 

[bbsam]

I guess your done trying to prove yourself as ethical. The economy has been great for me and my family thank you for the concern. As far as your profitering in this invironment, all I can say is injoy while you can. By the way Bbscam its not my brother in-law its my brother, and he does work in an ethical manner. He like other Ground drivers though have thier limitations in what they will do for your level of compensation and that my friend is far more powerfull then any court or form of legislation.

Brother. Sorry about that. So you are suggesting that for increased wages and benefits drivers are willing to work harder and longer? Possibly. But I am pleased with the output I'm getting and am willing to deal with whatever turnover comes along. And again, there is nothing unethical about my business practices. You don't like them, but that is simply opinion. Your brother doesn't like it, I suggest he become a contractor. That is the promotion he can expect in the company. Otherwise leave or resign himself to his situation. The increase in wages and benefits he seeks are not going to come. Buy in or get out.

 

[Signature Only]

FedEx is very good about keeping anything negative out of the news, but I know that employee theft is skyrocketing. In my district, corporate security has recently given several employees a very public escort from the building for stealing IPods or cell phones. Our local ramp was missing a bunch of laptops, and I've heard through the grapevine that they can't account for a large amount of jewelry in one station.

This is interesting because it appears that most of these people are getting away with the thefts and that those that are eventually caught are able to keep up the thefts for a long period of time. I'm guessing that
the vaunted FedEx tracking system isn't quite as good as they say and that corporate security is either overwhelmed or not very good at what they do. I suspect it's a bit of both.

Given the state of morale at FedEx these days, are most of these thefts revenge or are they for the money? I can actually envision someone tossing a pkg in a dumpster or at least emptying it's contents and never "profiting" from doing so, as opposed to a traditional thief who re-sells the merchandise. If you deliver an empty pkg, was it empty when you got it, or did you take it? I doubt FedEx is willing to rsik a lawsuit to find out in most cases.I disagree with either action, but it's interesting to see how impotent FedEx is at dealing with the problem.

When I was in the military I held a top secret ESI group 1 security clearance. When I was hired by UPS, the paperwork was nearly double that required for the clearance. You'll find crooks everywhere. Just remember Bernie Madoff and all the money he stole.