Feeders getting rid of pups for 40 footers???

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by brown67, Jan 19, 2012.

  1. brown67

    brown67 Active Member

    Around Denver they are trying to do away with as many 28 foot trailers and moving to 40 footers. We can pull double 40's here, so instead of pulling triples we are pulling double 40's. Is this company wide and what is the reasoning?
  2. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    40'? It's 53' or nothing here. One reason is it cost x amount of dollars to put a box on the rails. Might as well make it a big box.
  3. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    They better rebuild our yard. In the winter, you can't put a 53' on the eastern most door. Unless they want to pay for a snow blower instead of plow. And coordinate the garbage people to put the garbage bins back where they belong, not just where you plop it.
  4. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    On the thruway they can do it, but up here on 81-no way. Can't do double 40's. Against the law, I believe. I am sure Nanc will correct me if I am wrong, so I don't feel the need to look it up.
  5. raceanoncr

    raceanoncr Well-Known Member

    Can't be. MOST states don't allow more than 2 28 footers. Ours is one.

    Some states that DO allow only allow on turnpikes or interstates. Have to be put together at break down area before cities and individually taken into hub or center.

    Denver, and others MAY be heading in that direction but for them to continue to drive into neighboring states, those that don't allow such combos, they're gonna have to continue to keep 28s.

    Another thing, most in-state centers barely have room for a 28, let alone a 40 or 53. If you've been around your state and had to place a center load in a door, chances are you're aware that UPS acquires or buys the cheapest place they can find, with no consideration as to how a trailer is gonna get in there straight.

    Yrs ago, we had a center that had their unload door in between another building, someone elses building. 45' between buildings and 40' of trailer to put in door and jack up. Try it. :censored2: was ground into "pavement" where back left duals would slide around while jack-knifing trailer around. But the building was CHEAP.
  6. Covemastah

    Covemastah Suspension Ovah !!! Tom is free FU Goodell !!

    They run double 45's on I 90 in Mass right into I 90 in N.Y !!
  7. Covemastah

    Covemastah Suspension Ovah !!! Tom is free FU Goodell !!

    THE EMPIRE is now buying used containers and painting them white,,,all 53 footers.. usually 600 to 602 series , This is so they can double stack them on the rails..much cheaper..Major problem is closing these Trailer doors. The door rods are made out of cheap metal and over time has bent the rods so bad you need a mechanic up on a ladder to pound them shut !! i have seen it twice so far !!
    good luck if no one around in small building and you get one !! That load will sit!
  8. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    OMG Cove, MOST of those have problems closing.
  9. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    I'm at the largest building we have and its bad. Designed when 53' was the exception. Now the norm. Can't imagine the smaller buildings trying to deal with this.

    They're all Chinese hand-me-downs. Bought because they're cheap with little regard to functionality.
  10. hypocrisy

    hypocrisy Banned

    Not to mention that the Company seems to have forgotten how to order a twin screw tractor. Keep loading those LC's heavy Cach! A few more overweight tickets should solve the problem. I urge everyone to contract their local Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Officer and notify them of the problem. It's easy to go over 20,000lbs on the front axle on a single screw. Overweight axles affect breaking and tear up the roads more (wasting your tax dollars).

    Another reason why we suffer for having an accountant for a a CEO.
  11. Old International

    Old International Now driving a Sterling

    Nothing but DBL 28's down here. We have had a lot of new 53's show up, but they are being used to pickup big accounts, and runs between hubs. You could get a 53' into my center, but it would take them all day to unload it- all we have is rollers, no power unloaders to reach into the trl.
  12. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Is that why my mudflaps drag on the road???
  13. Southwestern

    Southwestern New Member

    UPS placed a large order for 53' trailers. Something like 6,800 -- but my memory may be flawed. The reason being is that they're rail cars that can be double-stacked, thus giving UPS a cost advantage over FedEx Ground, which routes everything by ground. We're starting to see more-and-more of these shiny, new, made-in-China trailers. Now all we need is equipment that can handle the loading/unloading of the 53'...
  14. bluehdmc

    bluehdmc Well-Known Member

    Fedex does ship by rail, went to a Norfolk Southern yard one Friday nite was suprised to see a few Fedex ground trailers. Maybe they just do this on weekends like we send certain loads over the rails on weekends.
    The Meadowlands can be all kinds of fun with 53's since it seems the yard, (like most) was only designed for 40's.
    For 450 cu ft more space than a 48' if it's loaded 100%. Ends up taking an extra 10 min or so to put one on a door. IE says it will work though ;-)

    Rumor has it they want to use the 53's for sleeper teams, tamdem tractors so there shouldn't be any weight issues. Less problems with dolly breakdowns. Just about every trucking co uses 53's
  15. outta hours

    outta hours Active Member

    They must have gotten a really good deal. We have a ton of the 53" 602/603 trailers here too. The back doors are very flimsy. The problem closing them will probably result in more injuries as guys struggle to get them closed or open. We have had several drivers over weight at the scales with them. We have been told twin screw tractors were on the way to alleviate that problem.

    As far as the yards being to small, I think that goes into the we don't care file. I saw several accidents this past peak involving the 53's on the yard. We can only pull doubles in my state , and the word is they are trying to eliminate paying the extra $.
  16. Southwestern

    Southwestern New Member

    True, FedEx Ground just started experimenting with rails, but one has to think they'll stick with surface transportation into the near future as they like to sell their faster transit times vs. UPS (although it's becoming increasingly less true ... I've heard from several FedEx Ground employees that during peak, FedEx held movement of some trailers until they were full, vs. UPS which shipped 53' trailers that held a handful of packages).
  17. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    We unload 53's all the time without power unloaders. All we have are rollers.
  18. brown bomber

    brown bomber brown bomber

    wonder why, bodies are breaking down.......do the math
  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You would almost think it was intentional.
  20. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    That was pretty weak, Nanc. My expectations are too high for you, I guess.