Fired for intoxication but I wasn't drunk

[Nolimitz]

Wrong! Been there.

Also, you don't go straight to jail after sobriety tests and a breathalyzer. You go to the hospital to get your blood drawn to confirm that you're indeed over the legal limit - roadside sobriety tests and breathalyzers don't hold up in court. So without the hospital trip, they can't make a dui charge stick, because we live in America and we're innocent until PROVEN guilty.

 

[rod]

The one part that does not add up, is a Cop pulled over a motorist for speeding, smelled booze on the breath, and just let him go?
What state did this happen in?
As far as I know, a motorist who smells of booze is given sobriety tests on the side of the road, fail the tests, do not pass go, a chauffer takes you straight to jail......

Isn't no cop today that's going to give anybody a free pass like that (unless you are "connected")

 

[LarryBird]

Wrong! Been there.

No I'm definitely not.

You are trying to say that you were arrested, charged, and convicted of DUI without being taken to the hospital and receiving a blood test for confirmation?

If you somehow were, and I highly doubt it, you had the world's worst attorney, and were arrested by the most incompetent policemen ever.

In my state, policemen are required to take you for a blood test, and breathalyzers alone are not enough to convict you in court - which is good, because they aren't always very accurate. There's reasons they can be wrong/give false levels, and a good lawyer will have it tossed in a heartbeat on breathalyzer alone.

 

[ManInBrown]

woke up too late to call out with out getting management on my back over it. went out as a celebration of sorts for my buddy getting a solid promotion as his job and for me finally hitting that top rate mark last month

Let’s see. Get management on your back which by the way who gives a friend, or get fired? You ain’t too bright are ya?

 

[LarryBird]

Isn't no cop today that's going to give anybody a free pass like that (unless you are "connected")

I have several friends that are policemen, and they often give people passes on dui if they seem like decent guys who made a mistake and aren't way over the limit.

They let them call somebody for a ride, or they give them a ride home.

Not every cop wants to ruin a middle class working guy/gal's life for a bad decision made while impaired. Some make a judgement call and cut people who seem like they deserve it (clean record, kids/family, barely over limit) a break.

 

[rod]

I have several friends that are policemen, and they often give people passes on dui if they seem like decent guys who made a mistake and aren't way over the limit.

They let them call somebody for a ride, or they give them a ride home.

Not every cop wants to ruin a middle class working guy/gal's life for a bad decision made while impaired. Some make a judgement call and cut people who seem like they deserve it (clean record, kids/family, barely over limit) a break.

Where do you live? Clarksville?

 

[542thruNthru]

Contacted my business agent and a different steward. Agent said he will meet with management hopefully tomorrow and be prepared to beg and submit to whatever they ask for.

Great so someone is going to lose their 9.5 grievance because you can't drink responsibly.

 

[LarryBird]

If this isn't a troll, he's probably still gonna get his job back if he's willing to go to inpatient rehab. It won't be for 90 days. It won't even be for 28 days - usually insurance will only pay for 21 days for a person's first trip to rehab. So he will go to 21 days inpatient, then he will have conditions to meet to come back...#1 is meeting an addiction specialist for an aftercare assessment...#2 is likely to be some hoops that the addiction specialist sets up such as therapy sessions or outpatient rehab once per week for a bit...#3 is a clean piss test and breathalyzer upon completion of whatever aftercare program he's given before he can return...#4 is two 12 step meetings per week for like 3 months with the signatures of two attendees at each meeting necessary and these will be sent in to the SAP...#5 is random drug and alcohol screening for a minimum of 1 year, to be extended up to 5 years, depending on the recommendation of the SAP.

If he gets a hot piss or registers even a .02 on the breathalyzer, he's gone, and there's nothing anyone in the union or at UPS can do - once he's in the program they're not even involved, because of a potential conflict of interest, it's the SAP who is in control of everything, including when and how often the tests will be.

Forgot to add that you will also be paid short term disability weekly for any time off to receive treatment, up to a certain amount of time that slips my head at the moment, and once you return to work you will be paid for all time spent at the drug testing site, including travel time to work from the site. So if you have a 9am start time and you get called in the morning to report for a drug/alcohol screen, you drive directly to the site, without reporting to work, and get there for 9am. You start getting paid then, so if you don't get to the building until 11am because you were at the doc and then driving to the building, it doesn't matter - you are paid from 9am regardless.

 

[Nolimitz]

Yes and I know of no one in this state that has ever been taken into the hospital for blood work for a DUI. It is not done here period. I requested to be taken...

No I'm definitely not.

You are trying to say that you were arrested, charged, and convicted of DUI without being taken to the hospital and receiving a blood test for confirmation?

If you somehow were, and I highly doubt it, you had the world's worst attorney, and were arrested by the most incompetent policemen ever.

In my state, policemen are required to take you for a blood test, and breathalyzers alone are not enough to convict you in court - which is good, because they aren't always very accurate. There's reasons they can be wrong/give false levels, and a good lawyer will have it tossed in a heartbeat on breathalyzer alone.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

I have several friends that are policemen, and they often give people passes on dui if they seem like decent guys who made a mistake and aren't way over the limit.

They let them call somebody for a ride, or they give them a ride home.

Not every cop wants to ruin a middle class working guy/gal's life for a bad decision made while impaired. Some make a judgement call and cut people who seem like they deserve it (clean record, kids/family, barely over limit) a break.

I once got pulled over leaving the bar after a friends bday party. Cop asked if I had been drinking and I told him the truth; yes but I switched to water for the last hour. I passed the field test just fine. Get to the breathalyzer and I was shaking in fear, I knew it was gonna be close. I blew a freaking .078888....cop said he appreciated my honesty and gave me a ride home, didn't write me a no insurance ticket. Crazy night, for every 10 crappy cops there's usually a few that are capable of doing the right thing

 

[zubenelgenubi]

He showed up with the intention of driving a UPS vehicle with alcohol in his system ,,, clear as day , no alcohol policy , you can’t dance around that, would you want him driving on your street with your kids out front playing ???

Reread my post and try again. This time, don't project your own feelings into what you are reading.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Long story short after going to work doctor my results showed a .06 level so they terminated me on the spot. My steward says there's nothing to be done cause of the 0 tolerance policy, I disagree cause i felt sober and would of been fine.
so is there anything I can do now....?

Find a 12-step program.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

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Actually he screwed himself!

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Drinking until all hours on a work night is extremely stupid. I'm sure no one else here has ever made such a bad decision. But, after sleeping and you wake and feel sober, what does the company expect you to do to verify your BA level is within acceptable parameters?

 

[Covemastah]

Reread my post and try again. This time, don't project your own feelings into what you are reading.

I don’t know what you wrote on your post , I’ll post my opinion or feelings on anything I want to , showing up to a diving job no matter who you work for is wrong & stupid !!

 

[Johney]

Also, you don't go straight to jail after sobriety tests and a breathalyzer. You go to the hospital to get your blood drawn to confirm that you're indeed over the legal limit - roadside sobriety tests and breathalyzers don't hold up in court. So without the hospital trip, they can't make a dui charge stick, because we live in America and we're innocent until PROVEN guilty.

I don't think so. I know a couple people who have gotten DUI's and also have a buddy who's a Sherriff in the county just south of here. You don't go to the hospital for blood unless there is a fatality involved.

 

[Heavy Package]

Long story short after going to work doctor my results showed a .06 level so they terminated me on the spot.

^^^^^ STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPID!

 

[retired2000]

Did you punch in if not you were not on company time

 

[BigUnionGuy]

We were due for another one of these threads.

Long story short after going to work doctor my results showed a .06 level so they terminated me on the spot.

You were "taken out of service" pending the process outlined in Article 35.


The next step will be a meeting with a SAP for an evaluation.

Follow the SAP's recommendations, and you will return to work in time.

Cliffs notes:
Rehab
Outpatient/therapy
Return to work drug/alcohol tests
Verified AA meetings twice weekly for 90-180 days
Random drug/alcohol tests for 1 year min, 5 years max, tbd by the SAP.

That's a worst case scenario.

I've seen cases where the driver had very minimal requirements.

(aside from a return to work drug/alcohol test)

It's all going to come down to the SAP's evaluation.... and what he tells them.

Just call off!!! Wtf. Lol.

woke up too late to call out with out getting management on my back over it.

Wow.




-Bug-

 

[LarryBird]

I don't think so. I know a couple people who have gotten DUI's and also have a buddy who's a Sherriff in the county just south of here. You don't go to the hospital for blood unless there is a fatality involved.

Interesting...in my state they draw blood to confirm the breathalyzer in all dui cases. Because without the blood test, the charges often times will not hold up in court.

A good lawyer should have a field day getting your charges dismissed on breathalyzer alone - they're not terribly accurate, and because of that, there's plenty of precedent of cases being tossed out for relying on them alone. A blood test, along with a field sobriety and breathalyzer, makes for an ironclad open and shut case. Which is probably why they're a requirement in my area.

But I guess it's not that way everywhere apparently. I was wrong to assume it was.