Fired for intoxication but I wasn't drunk

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Indians are on FIRE!!!!!!!
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Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
The one part that does not add up, is a Cop pulled over a motorist for speeding, smelled booze on the breath, and just let him go?
What state did this happen in?
As far as I know, a motorist who smells of booze is given sobriety tests on the side of the road, fail the tests, do not pass go, a chauffer takes you straight to jail......
I’ve seen them let a lot go if you’re in your browns.
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
The one part that does not add up, is a Cop pulled over a motorist for speeding, smelled booze on the breath, and just let him go?
What state did this happen in?
As far as I know, a motorist who smells of booze is given sobriety tests on the side of the road, fail the tests, do not pass go, a chauffer takes you straight to jail......
He was on his way to work in the morning and I presume in his UPS browns. Most cops give us a lot of slack since we are both Union employees.
 

MattM

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You should have told them you have a drinking problem and need to check into a program before they made you go through the test. You wouldn’t have got fired and you would probably have to do 90 day inpatient but you’d still have a job.
At my building, once you clock in, you better be sober (or not get caught).

We've had one guy walk into our building drunk and other co workers stopped him from clocking in. He 'asked for help'. He's still around. Another girl walked into loudly and instantly clocked in. They walked her out never to be seen again.
 

LarryBird

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The one part that does not add up, is a Cop pulled over a motorist for speeding, smelled booze on the breath, and just let him go?
What state did this happen in?
As far as I know, a motorist who smells of booze is given sobriety tests on the side of the road, fail the tests, do not pass go, a chauffer takes you straight to jail......
There's no rule that says the cop can't let you go. It happens all the time.

Plus he wasn't drunk. He would not have gotten a dui, or gone to jail, because his BAC wasn't over the legal limit of .08.

Also, you don't go straight to jail after sobriety tests and a breathalyzer. You go to the hospital to get your blood drawn to confirm that you're indeed over the legal limit - roadside sobriety tests and breathalyzers don't hold up in court. So without the hospital trip, they can't make a dui charge stick, because we live in America and we're innocent until PROVEN guilty.
 

LarryBird

Well-Known Member
That is not what trump said about the Central Park Five. He took out a full page add in all of NYC newspapers advocating for the death penalty. Only problem was: they were innocent.
I give zero credence to anything that comes out of that orangutan looking :censored2:'s mouth. He's the world's biggest :censored2:, and a blowhard of the highest degree.

I hope his KFC gobbling ass keels over and dies before he does anymore damage to our country and it's reputation so badly. If I was religious, I'd be praying for it every night.
 

Maple Grove MN Driver

Cocaine Mang!
I give zero credence to anything that comes out of that orangutan looking :censored2:'s mouth. He's the world's biggest :censored2:, and a blowhard of the highest degree.

I hope his KFC gobbling ass keels over and dies before he does anymore damage to our country and it's reputation so badly. If I was religious, I'd be praying for it every night.

I feel sorry for people that let politics have such an impact on their lives.
It must be a sad and pathetic existence
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
I give zero credence to anything that comes out of that orangutan looking :censored2:'s mouth. He's the world's biggest :censored2:, and a blowhard of the highest degree.

I hope his KFC gobbling ass keels over and dies before he does anymore damage to our country and it's reputation so badly. If I was religious, I'd be praying for it every night.
The only problem there is that Pence would become the POTUS. Not sure who is worse.
 

Re-Raise

Well-Known Member
The one part that does not add up, is a Cop pulled over a motorist for speeding, smelled booze on the breath, and just let him go?
What state did this happen in?
As far as I know, a motorist who smells of booze is given sobriety tests on the side of the road, fail the tests, do not pass go, a chauffer takes you straight to jail......
Sometimes when a person tries too hard to include details to make their story sound believable... it is an indicator that it is a lie.

I have seen it many times at the poker table and I watch a lot of Dateline episodes
 

LarryBird

Well-Known Member
I feel sorry for people that let politics have such an impact on their lives.
It must be a sad and pathetic existence
I feel sorry for people who don't realize the impact that politics has on their lives, and more importantly the lives of others, especially our poorest citizens.

It must be such a sad and pathetic existence to be so uninformed, or even worse than that, know and not care. Voting for selfish interest, rather than the greater good of our country and it's citizens, is one the lowest things you could do - these same people who do this are often the ones who attend church regularly and call themselves the moral majority.

That's what makes me sad.
 

Covemastah

Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
He informed them of the issue, they prevented him from going on road. Where's the terminable offense?
He showed up with the intention of driving a UPS vehicle with alcohol in his system ,,, clear as day , no alcohol policy , you can’t dance around that, would you want him driving on your street with your kids out front playing ???
 

Indecisi0n

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He showed up with the intention of driving a UPS vehicle with alcohol in his system ,,, clear as day , no alcohol policy , you can’t dance around that, would you want him driving on your street with your kids out front playing ???
Maybe he just accidentally swallowed some mouthwash while brushing his teeth?
 

LarryBird

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Contacted my business agent and a different steward. Agent said he will meet with management hopefully tomorrow and be prepared to beg and submit to whatever they ask for.
See my post on the page before this about what you should be prepared for. What I typed there is what you will be doing for the next few years if you want to get your back, and then keep it.

Cliffs notes:
Rehab
Outpatient/therapy
Return to work drug/alcohol tests
Verified AA meetings twice weekly for 90-180 days
Random drug/alcohol tests for 1 year min, 5 years max, tbd by the SAP.
 

LarryBird

Well-Known Member
Here, I'll repost it for you:
If this isn't a troll, he's probably still gonna get his job back if he's willing to go to inpatient rehab. It won't be for 90 days. It won't even be for 28 days - usually insurance will only pay for 21 days for a person's first trip to rehab. So he will go to 21 days inpatient, then he will have conditions to meet to come back...#1 is meeting an addiction specialist for an aftercare assessment...#2 is likely to be some hoops that the addiction specialist sets up such as therapy sessions or outpatient rehab once per week for a bit...#3 is a clean piss test and breathalyzer upon completion of whatever aftercare program he's given before he can return...#4 is two 12 step meetings per week for like 3 months with the signatures of two attendees at each meeting necessary and these will be sent in to the SAP...#5 is random drug and alcohol screening for a minimum of 1 year, to be extended up to 5 years, depending on the recommendation of the SAP.

If he gets a hot piss or registers even a .02 on the breathalyzer, he's gone, and there's nothing anyone in the union or at UPS can do - once he's in the program they're not even involved, because of a potential conflict of interest, it's the SAP who is in control of everything, including when and how often the tests will be.
 

Covemastah

Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
I think I read no alcohol to be consumed 8 hrs before duty ,, I can’t remember if it was from RMV for a commercial vehicle or the UPS handbook , but it’s out there , and yes , a pkg car needs no CDL , but it’s also a commercial vehicle
 
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