fired for what?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by imokurokwereok, Feb 25, 2015.

  1. imokurokwereok

    imokurokwereok New Member

    Im on a working termination for not communicating with my supervisor before returning to the center with 17 stops i had left. I did this after the mechanic instructed me to nurse the ill running truck back to the center. Initially i called my supervisor cell phone but got no answer. So i called the center talked to the local sort supervisor and told them my truck wasnt runing right and i still had stops left. Also said i was in a Ryder truck and needed mechanics #. Called the mechanic he said to nurse the truck in if possible because there wasnt any trucks to bring me. It was peek. So i sent a ods stating what the mechanic told me to do And i headed in. I was 60 miles from the center. Got back where my truck completely quite running as soon as i hit the parking lot. my supervisor started yelling at me about the 17 stops. I told him i called his phone, center, mechanic and then sent a ods before i returned with the broken truck. I offered to take another truck to finish because i still had 4 hrs of availability left for the day. He said it was to late go home. I was given a working term shorty after for not following proper delivery methods. The company is taking me to panel on this. My supervisor states there was no ods message. Im 100% sure i sent a message that night before returning. Im told they have a copy of all ods messages at the corporate office. I just dont know how to get it. I dont trust anyone from the company at the local level. I've been with ups for almost 24 years. My grievance panel is mar17. The ups labor manager says im not being fired for missing the 17 stops but for not communicating to my supervisor. Which is why i need the ods message they say i never sent. any suggestions?
  2. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    At most a warning letter, for missed stops due to a truck which is in poor mechanical condition.
  3. O/C

    O/C Member

    Get a hard copy on your cell phone call to your supervisor, that should solve the issue.

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  4. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Your BA should be able to request a copy of all messages sent to and from you that day.

    I will say here's something I worry about without some type of acknowledgment from them to us through the board that they receive a message we send how do we know it went through?
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  5. Austin.Was.My.Hero

    Austin.Was.My.Hero quod erat demonstrandum

    Your phone will have some history of messages but all you should need is "the mechanic instructed me to nurse the ill running truck back to the center...."

    ^ Wouldn't that cover your arse?

    Are you at a union building? Possibly this is a ploy to prevent unemployment benefits.
    It is no longer peak season. You are not longer needed as a driver.

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  6. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    That termination will crash and burn for your management team.
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  7. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Whenever I read about a case where the employee did nothing wrong and yet the company is still taking him to panel, I always wonder if I'm getting the whole story.
  8. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    UPS may and often will try to scare people with lesser forms of harassment like warning letters but they will almost never let it go to panel if it is a case they will clearly lose. Either more to the story or management needed a scapegoat.
  9. nystripe96

    nystripe96 Active Member

    That termination won't stick. As long as you have the proof on your cell then you're in good shape. Regardless of whether they received a message on your diad, your call log on your phone will save your arse
  10. 728ups

    728ups offending people on the internet since 1995

    its all harassment and intimidation. There is no longer any leadership at center level and you are getting payback for the arse chewing the center manager got from the DM over the missed pieces. FILE!!! it will go away. Your center manager KNOWS it wont stick, he just has to look as if he is somehow solving the problem. I would communicate soley thru the diad in the future as UPS dosent pay hourly employees cell phone bill,and there will be a copy of the messages sent
  11. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    It's not that hard to fathom for me.

    I've seen enough of my fellow drivers get fired for bogus reasons, just to get their jobs back at panel.

    Lots of dumb#×$ supervisors out there.
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  12. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    BS...BS....BS. There is more to this story.
  13. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    90% of the time it's just an intimidation move. Right before panel they will offer to just warning letter and you not do it again.
  14. There was no other supervisor you could call to alert? Or even call the center? If one of our guys has a question and can't get an on road they always call the center.

    Something isn't adding up here.
  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    It says he called the center and talked to local sort manager who told him to call the mechanic.
  16. Whatbrownwontdoforyou

    Whatbrownwontdoforyou Well-Known Member

    I know the company doesnt pay my cell phone bill but I send a group text to sups and managers to comunicate my issues.....this way I have documentation I can access in seconds to cover my ass.......I have unlimited text for $5 or less a month well worth it
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  17. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Aonther case of the Employee can't win.
    Had they stayed out and the truck breaks down it would be a case of
    "Why didn't you bring it back in, now we have to pay for a wrecker, and have service failures"
    Woulda been dealt with for keeping malfunctioning equipment on the road.
    Or, operating unsafe euipment, and woulda been in this postion for not using good judgement to bring it back in.
    No matter what you do, it is the wrong decision!
  18. box_beeyotch

    box_beeyotch Well-Known Member

    Should've finished the last 17, let the truck break down and ride that OT train until they can bring you another one to get back to the building. Not only do you make money but you get to see the look on their face as they call a tow truck!
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  19. imokurokwereok

    imokurokwereok New Member

  20. retiredTxfeeder

    retiredTxfeeder cap'n crunch

    You've been here 24 years. It would sure be a feather in their cap to make your termination stick. Having said that, I don't see it going to panel. You have a lot of documentation on your side. Good luck to you, and keep us informed.