Forced to go through air progression twice.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by PizzaToUps, Apr 1, 2020.

  1. PizzaToUps

    PizzaToUps Member

    So as you all may know, there’s a part time air progression and a full time air progression, both with different rates of pay.

    I was a part time air driver/cover driver and worked in the hub when laid off but always delivered air on saturdays. I weren’t through the two year air progression before the 2018 contract was ratified and was making $30 an hour. I recently won a combo bid and now My rate of pay dropped to $17 an hour. They are saying I need to now go through the full time air progression. Think I can fight this and at least be Red circled ?
     
  2. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    I am pretty sure you are going through progression now as a FT employee. You have not done that, so you need to do it again.
     
  3. PizzaToUps

    PizzaToUps Member

    yeah for my inside rate portion but why would I lose money for doing the same type of work? I should at least be red circled. I made more money as a part timer lol...
     
  4. RTCD

    RTCD Member

    You should be red circled at top rate air after 2 years. Your first air punch started the clock on your progression and like you said you don’t go through progression twice.

    The new contract changed air progression to 4 years... it would be crazy to go 6 years for top rate air pay.
     
  5. RTCD

    RTCD Member

    The Master, Article 40, section 6 covers all this.

    2 (C) even mentions the PT to FT red circled rate.
     
  6. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    Don’t worry. We’ll all be dead soon. Who cares.
     
  7. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member


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  8. PizzaToUps

    PizzaToUps Member

    Filing a grievance now and will be using this section. Thank you! I should be red circled at my part time top air rate and then get the full time top air rate when my progression catches up correct?
     
  9. RTCD

    RTCD Member

    If you have already completed the 2 year air progression as PT then there is no additional progression. You should go straight to FT top rate... is there even a difference between the two top rates?
     
  10. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Mmm I want pizza.
     
  11. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member

    MIA since 2018 lol
     
  12. PizzaToUps

    PizzaToUps Member

    it’s around a $2 difference. You would think they’d at least red circled me and then I would go through that 4 year progression to get the extra $2 difference...
     
  13. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    The only issue may be that he isn't getting a FT air job. He's becoming a combo. I read the same language but Article 40 is such a cluster F that it just seems to screw everything up.
     
  14. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    My BA told me avoid anything to with article 40 when filing grievances because it's so messed up, the company will win most of the time.
     
  15. SameRightsForAll

    SameRightsForAll Active Member

    What the hell is Red Circled and when did this term start?
     
  16. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    It's been around quite a while.
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  17. PizzaToUps

    PizzaToUps Member

    My argument against that is if you look at section f, it places combos into the full time air driver wage classification. One could argue that it’s technically full time air driver work and therefore a full time air driver job.
     
  18. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I'm on your side but what has your BA told you?
     
  19. PizzaToUps

    PizzaToUps Member

    company says I’m being paid correctly, BA is on my side so we filed a grievance.
     
  20. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    That's good to hear.