Full-time wage progression inside/inside 22.3

[SmNbnOvr]

“Part-time employees whose rates are higher than those set forth above who bid into a full-time inside job created after July 31, 1997 shall be paid their current inside wage rate plus the general wage increases. Other employees who bid into a full-time inside job created after July 31, 1997 will be paid their current wage rate until such time as the calculated progression rate set forth below exceeds that rate.”
Question>> I had to wait 14 years to get offered a full-time position and being told I have wait 4 more years locked into my current part-time rate with no wage increases. Reading the contract statement above doesn’t explain anything as to which category I fall into. “Other employees”?? Have been told by my BA that the general wage increases don’t apply to me but not why or where in the contract this is explained. Having a hard time believing that my union agreed to this 4 year freeze and need clarification. Thanks

 

[Observer]

I also read Article 41 in the National agreement-I am in the central region. I don't understand it either. Can anyone clarify if we are still subjected to the four year progression rule?

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Your pay rate is red-circled until the progression rate catches up to your PT inside rate; in your case, your rate is probably around $20/hr or so, just a rough estimate, so the progression raises and rate will still be less than your red-circled rate.

 

[Jkloc420]

“Part-time employees whose rates are higher than those set forth above who bid into a full-time inside job created after July 31, 1997 shall be paid their current inside wage rate plus the general wage increases. Other employees who bid into a full-time inside job created after July 31, 1997 will be paid their current wage rate until such time as the calculated progression rate set forth below exceeds that rate.”
Question>> I had to wait 14 years to get offered a full-time position and being told I have wait 4 more years locked into my current part-time rate with no wage increases. Reading the contract statement above doesn’t explain anything as to which category I fall into. “Other employees”?? Have been told by my BA that the general wage increases don’t apply to me but not why or where in the contract this is explained. Having a hard time believing that my union agreed to this 4 year freeze and need clarification. Thanks

what job did you take

 

[SmNbnOvr]

Your pay rate is red-circled until the progression rate catches up to your PT inside rate; in your case, your rate is probably around $20/hr or so, just a rough estimate, so the progression raises and rate will still be less than your red-circled rate.

The raises in the contract, in the first half of the paragraph, describe them as “general” wage increases. Not progression raises. The same raises that every union member gets as stated, per year, in the contract. This is what is confusing. Along with the “other employees” part. Why am I one of these other employees? Where does it explain this?

 

[SmNbnOvr]

what job did you take

22.3 inside/inside

 

[PT Car Washer]

22.3 inside/inside

Load on Midnight, unload on preload?

 

[SmNbnOvr]

Loading twi and midnight

 

[PT Car Washer]

Loading twi and midnight

At least you got your foot in the door.

 

[SmNbnOvr]

At least you got your foot in the door.

Yeah. 14 years later. Right after winning my full-time bid there were suddenly at least a dozen more offered. Guys with 9-10 years started making full-time. They will hit top pay after 13-14 years with the company/union while be waiting 18. Truly happy for these lucky guys but there is something very not right with it.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

What is your question/point?

Sounds like you are bitter because you waited 14 years for a crappy Full Time inside job

 

[SmNbnOvr]

So weird. Can you type AND pee in your bottle at the same time?!

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

So weird. Can you type AND pee in your bottle at the same time?!

You sound really bitter.

 

[PT Car Washer]

What is your question/point?

Sounds like you are bitter because you waited 14 years for a crappy Full Time inside job

There are a lot of guys just like him. May as well just stayed PT and retire in another 11 years with a pension for life.

 

[Tony Q]

I also read Article 41 in the National agreement-I am in the central region. I don't understand it either. Can anyone clarify if we are still subjected to the four year progression rule?

Its because you already make more than the negotiated progression.

 

[SmNbnOvr]

You sound really bitter.

Really not. Just trying to get help and a legitimate explanation without someone wasting my time.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

Really not. Just trying to get help and a legitimate explanation without someone wasting my time.

Your question has been answered at least twice with the info you need.
Apparently you are not satisfied with the answer

 

[SmNbnOvr]

Its because you already make more than the negotiated progression.

That I understand. The part I don’t is why I don’t get the general wage increases on the way to top pay as the article states in the first sentence.

 

[PT Car Washer]

That I understand. The part I don’t is why I don’t get the general wage increases on the way to top pay as the article states in the first sentence.

Because you are still in progression. After you hit top rate you will receive all the raises.

 

[SmNbnOvr]

Because you are still in progression. After you hit top rate you will receive all the raises.

Ok. So the first sentance in the article 41 refers to someone who is already making more per hour than the third year progression rate and the second is for someone who is making less?