"get that crap off the lawn"...Oklahoma Supreme Court says...

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Thank you for acknowledging you cannot explain the difference . Of course, we all know you can, but CANT, because it would destroy your argument, so its better to turn the conversation about me and attack me instead of explaining what I asked you.

Yes, you can own guns, without a background check, a full mental evaluation and licensing of all your weapons. You are free to kill yourself, your family, your neighbors or coworkers when you ultimately lose your mind.

Nobody can stop that.

Everyday, 53 gun owners kill themselves with guns every year. That means that some of you on this board will ultimately turn your beloved object of death into a final solution at some point in your lives.

Good luck figuring out which ones its going to be.

TOS.

You've presented NOTHING that needs to be differentiated. In fact.....your side by side comparison between The Second Amendment and your made up package car....uh... thing was nothing nothing more than conparing two things that were so different they didn't even belong in the same thread. Your refusal to respect, or even understand The Second Amendment stems from your stubburn, child-like, emotionaly overloaded, liberal mental handicap that precludes you from functioning normally.

 

[MrFedEx]

Regulating guns is a slippery slope. The ability to make laws was not meant as a catch all and certainly wasnt intended to restrict firearms and thereby infringing on our Second Amendment rights.

Camels nose under the tent? The Second Amendment is another example of a law/right that was written 250 years ago when we had militias and the potential threat on England trying to take us back. That said, nobody is messing with the Second Amendment because it is political death to do so.

You and Scalia can imagine together that it's still 1776, but the world is a very different place now.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Camels nose under the tent? The Second Amendment is another example of a law/right that was written 250 years ago when we had militias and the potential threat on England trying to take us back. That said, nobody is messing with the Second Amendment because it is political death to do so.

You and Scalia can imagine together that it's still 1776, but the world is a very different place now.

Where in The Constitution does it state that there is an expiration date? Or that certain language becomes null and void with age?

Those were both rhetorical questions because there are no answers.

 

[BrownArmy]

Your refusal to respect, or even understand The Second Amendment stems from your stubburn, child-like, emotionaly overloaded, liberal mental handicap that precludes you from functioning normally.

So, tell us how you feel.

 

[MrFedEx]

Where in The Constitution does it state that there is an expiration date? Or that certain language becomes null and void with age?

Those were both rhetorical questions because there are no answers.

Isn't it logical to have the ability to modify a document that is 250 years old? The world has changed exponentially since then, yet we still need to pretend it's 1776?

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

So, tell us how you feel.

......like going to the range.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Isn't it logical to have the ability to modify a document that is 250 years old? The world has changed exponentially since then, yet we still need to pretend it's 1776?

There is no need to modify it at this point. It would work just fine in its present form if people would just stop being whiny little sissies.

 

[oldngray]

There is a procedure to change the Constitution. By Amendments. Just as it was intended to be. It was made possible but difficult to change by design.

 

[The Other Side]

TO get back to the point of separation of church and state... read these comments from President John Adams..

“The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”~John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” 1787-1788

Happy 4th of Non Religious July.

TOS.

 

[The Other Side]

“History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813

 

[bottomups]

There is a procedure to change the Constitution. By Amendments. Just as it was intended to be. It was made possible but difficult to change by design.

Civil rights should not and cannot be put up to popular vote!

 

[The Other Side]

“Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. Religious institutions that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society. We have solved … the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries.”~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in a speech to the Virginia Baptists, 1808

 

[The Other Side]

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814,

 

[The Other Side]

“When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obligated to call for help of the civil power, it’s a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.” ~Founding Father Benjamin Franklin, letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780

 

[wkmac]

Civil rights should not and cannot be put up to popular vote!

Actually they can be. But typically, yes they are not.

Positive and Negative rights is another way of considering the difference regarding rights.

We once had natural or unalienable rights but we seem comfortable today with eroding them away in exchange for civil rights, rights granted by the state which can come or go depending on political whims. Many of those rights often come in the form of positive rights which requires specific performance. Positive rights also require a continuing control of the State or risk the loss of those rights as another political force shifts the burden to the other side of the isle. Negative rights requires no specific performance for others to enjoy and thus requires no political force to maintain them. All one has to do is nothing but let them be.

Being the 4th concerns the Declaration on Independence, we still give almost little thought of the following:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

And not that we didn't botch the "all men created equal" thingy either.

 

[MrFedEx]

......like going to the range.

Remember. The barrel goes toward the target.

 

[MrFedEx]

There is no need to modify it at this point. It would work just fine in its present form if people would just stop being whiny little sissies.

So says you, Mr. Anti-Government anything. Someone like you would like to see everyone have the right to own and carry an RPG, which is insane, but true to your "bear and carry" philosophy. Society evolves, and the law evolves with it, unless you are stuck in an intellectual rut that is 50 feet deep.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

So says you, Mr. Anti-Government anything. Someone like you would like to see everyone have the right to own and carry an RPG, which is insane, but true to your "bear and carry" philosophy. Society evolves, and the law evolves with it, unless you are stuck in an intellectual rut that is 50 feet deep.

So, you think I'm an anarchist? LOL!

Society isn't evolving. In fact...it's been devolving with every liberal with power's stroke of a pen.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Remember. The barrel goes toward the target.

Or for liberals......TOWARDS The Constitution. LOL!

 

[wkmac]

Society isn't evolving. In fact...it's been devolving with every liberal with power's stroke of a pen.

Well you're at least half way there as to why society is devolving!