Go get them John Durham ! Make those arrests

Box Ox

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Amazing how the right wing media has dropped the story of Hillary spying. Another nothing burger.
Who says they've dropped it?

Wonder if they'll be talking about this on Morning Joe tomorrow morning. Hmmmmm. :)


"Federal prosecutors on Tuesday sought to portray an attorney who formerly worked for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign as a privileged, high-powered person who abused his connections with the FBI in a bid to harm former President Donald Trump's campaign just weeks before the election.

In opening arguments in a federal court in Washington, prosecutor Brittain Shaw told a jury that attorney Michael Sussmann misled the FBI about who he represented when he met with the bureau's top lawyer on Sept. 19, 2016, to provide a tip alleging internet communications between Trump's business and a Russian bank.

The allegations were investigated and later discredited.

"The evidence will show that this is a case about privilege - the privilege of a well-connected D.C. lawyer with access to the highest levels of the FBI," Shaw said, adding that Sussmann abused his connections to "use the FBI as a political tool."

The case against Sussmann is being led by Special Counsel John Durham, who was appointed by then-Attorney General William Barr in 2019 to probe any missteps in the FBI's investigation into whether Trump's campaign was colluding with Russia."
 

bbsam

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Wonder if they'll be talking about this on Morning Joe tomorrow morning. Hmmmmm. :)


"Federal prosecutors on Tuesday sought to portray an attorney who formerly worked for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign as a privileged, high-powered person who abused his connections with the FBI in a bid to harm former President Donald Trump's campaign just weeks before the election.

In opening arguments in a federal court in Washington, prosecutor Brittain Shaw told a jury that attorney Michael Sussmann misled the FBI about who he represented when he met with the bureau's top lawyer on Sept. 19, 2016, to provide a tip alleging internet communications between Trump's business and a Russian bank.

The allegations were investigated and later discredited.

"The evidence will show that this is a case about privilege - the privilege of a well-connected D.C. lawyer with access to the highest levels of the FBI," Shaw said, adding that Sussmann abused his connections to "use the FBI as a political tool."

The case against Sussmann is being led by Special Counsel John Durham, who was appointed by then-Attorney General William Barr in 2019 to probe any missteps in the FBI's investigation into whether Trump's campaign was colluding with Russia."
I’d be willing to bet this goes nowhere. Showing Susmann as an entitled high roller will be easy. Proving him a criminal far more difficult.
 

Box Ox

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I’d be willing to bet this goes nowhere. Showing Susmann as an entitled high roller will be easy. Proving him a criminal far more difficult.

Doesn't sound like it'll be difficult to prove he lied to the FBI to me. 🤷‍♂️

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Box Ox

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Everyone lies to the FBI. Few end up paying for it.

I dunno. Sounds like the prosecution's goal is gonna be to make an example of him. The trial is in DC though. So a jury might indeed be reluctant to convict one of Hillary's guys.


"Assistant Special Counsel Deborah Shaw told jurors that Sussmann took advantage of his relationships with the FBI and its then-general counsel James Baker to plant data about a potential Trump tie to Russia while hiding the fact that Sussmann was acting on behalf of the Clinton campaign.

“This is a case about privilege ... the privilege of a lawyer who thought that for the powerful the normal rules didn’t apply, that he could use the FBI as a political tool,” Shaw said in her opening statement in U.S. District Court. “The defendant lied to direct the power and resources of the FBI to his own ends and to serve the agendas of his clients.”

Shaw said Sussmann and the Clinton campaign hoped that the FBI would jump on Sussmann’s report and launch an investigation that would embarrass Trump as voters prepared to go to the polls.

“It was a plan to create an October Surprise on the eve of the presidential election — a plan that used and manipulated the FBI ……a plan that largely succeeded,” Shaw declared."
 

newfie

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I’d be willing to bet this goes nowhere. Showing Susmann as an entitled high roller will be easy. Proving him a criminal far more difficult.
they have clear documented evidence that Susmann lied to them. The police state knew this and still pursued evidence from Susmann that they had already allegedly quickly debunked.

Keep in mind that while they ignored Susmans documented lie to them they at the same time within 3 months opened up a lying to the FBI case against Michael Flynn.

I agree though that this probably will not go anywhere simply because the swamp protects its own.

But all citiizens should be concerned about a police state that picks winners and losers .
 

bbsam

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I dunno. Sounds like the prosecution's goal is gonna be to make an example of him. The trial is in DC though. So a jury might indeed be reluctant to convict one of Hillary's guys.


"Assistant Special Counsel Deborah Shaw told jurors that Sussmann took advantage of his relationships with the FBI and its then-general counsel James Baker to plant data about a potential Trump tie to Russia while hiding the fact that Sussmann was acting on behalf of the Clinton campaign.

“This is a case about privilege ... the privilege of a lawyer who thought that for the powerful the normal rules didn’t apply, that he could use the FBI as a political tool,” Shaw said in her opening statement in U.S. District Court. “The defendant lied to direct the power and resources of the FBI to his own ends and to serve the agendas of his clients.”

Shaw said Sussmann and the Clinton campaign hoped that the FBI would jump on Sussmann’s report and launch an investigation that would embarrass Trump as voters prepared to go to the polls.

“It was a plan to create an October Surprise on the eve of the presidential election — a plan that used and manipulated the FBI ……a plan that largely succeeded,” Shaw declared."
Isn’t it always the goal of the prosecution to “make an example” of the defendant? Whether Sussman or January 6 defendants or Michael Flynn or Martha Stewart, that’s the prosecution’s job.
 

vantexan

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Isn’t it always the goal of the prosecution to “make an example” of the defendant? Whether Sussman or January 6 defendants or Michael Flynn or Martha Stewart, that’s the prosecution’s job.
Gee, I wonder if they threatened Sussman's son with prosecution if he didn't cooperate with dirt on Clinton? Oh, yeah, Clinton wasn't falsely accused of collusion with Russians. She and her team were the ones responsible for making the whole thing up about Trump.
 

bbsam

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Gee, I wonder if they threatened Sussman's son with prosecution if he didn't cooperate with dirt on Clinton? Oh, yeah, Clinton wasn't falsely accused of collusion with Russians. She and her team were the ones responsible for making the whole thing up about Trump.
Yes. We know, van. Republicans good, democrats bad.

You’re too old to be that naïve. It’s a filthy swamp and all the creatures are very, very at home in the muck.
 
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