Government Motors
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Lue C Fur
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Lue C Fur
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trplnkl
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This country might not survive a disaster equal to what Japan is going through. However, we can't forget Katrina as mild in comparison as it was. That was a pretty big deal.
trplnkl
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Only because you are the one that said it.
MrFedEx
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That would be part of it. We'd be shooting each other instead of trying to devise solutions.
MrFedEx
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The Car and Driver test had the cars separated by just a few points. The Focus won, and the Mazda was second. The Volt is a pure-electric car, while the Prius remains a hybrid, although there are a few plug-in Priuse's out there. I believe that both Ford and Nissan used licensed versions of Toyota's Hybrid-Synergy drive. As bbsam said, government R&D/military spending eventually finds it's way to the private sector, where both the consumer and industry get something out of the deal.
For the record, I only buy Japanese vehicles (except for my pickup) because they are ultra-reliable and last a long time. American cars are getting to be almost as good, although IMO, they aren't quite there yet. You can't blame the government or the unions for the problems in the US car industry, although they're part of the problem. For a long time, we built crap cars that nobody wanted. They weren't well-made, reliable, or up to date with the competition. That is finally changing. Ford seems to have the right idea, and they did it without the government.
trplnkl
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Sorry, the volt is not total electric.
From the official Volt web site :
Say hello to the Volt, Chevrolet's new electric vehicle that can use gas (but only if you need to). The Volt will take you wherever you need to go whether it's to the corner store or a long-distance road trip. Check out the video to get an overview of the Volt from the minds behind its creation.
From the official Volt web site :
Say hello to the Volt, Chevrolet's new electric vehicle that can use gas (but only if you need to). The Volt will take you wherever you need to go whether it's to the corner store or a long-distance road trip. Check out the video to get an overview of the Volt from the minds behind its creation.
Then we should lock ourselves up. From the Wall Street executive to the part-time Walmart supervisor. All are immoral and thieves of man's labor and vampires of prosperity to enrich themselves. Again, show me the society where such strata of "haves" and "have nots" do not exist. Utopia is next to Never Never Land.
klein
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If you guys really want GM to falter, just vote in Trump.
Since he'll add 25% tarif on all chinese goods, I'm sure the chinese will do the same for American goods.
GM and Ford (probably Chrsyler, too) have China as their largest consumer !
Germany would just love that with their Mercedes, Beamers and Audis being cheaper to buy in China then any US car !
Since he'll add 25% tarif on all chinese goods, I'm sure the chinese will do the same for American goods.
GM and Ford (probably Chrsyler, too) have China as their largest consumer !
Germany would just love that with their Mercedes, Beamers and Audis being cheaper to buy in China then any US car !
moreluck
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GM (General Motors) is already gone........in most people's minds. I used to love GM products and own 2 chevy products myself.......but they are no longer in business.
They should've been allowed to fade out because they didn't operate their company right. They mis-judged the market and were spread too thin instead of concentrating on what they did well.....trucks & SUVs.
They should've been allowed to fade out because they didn't operate their company right. They mis-judged the market and were spread too thin instead of concentrating on what they did well.....trucks & SUVs.
Lue C Fur
Evil member
Why would i want GM to falter? My tax dollars bailed them out. The point is that they are still doing the same things that got them into trouble. They should be doing so much better after a massive restructuring. I would not buy any of the cars when there are so much better ones out there.
klein
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Well, maybe you should find out, why the GM IPOs are falling.
Maybe just because the Treasury today annouced to sell a lot , starting in May and ending in October ?
Besides, you guys always say it's your money. So far, no one has paid for it, besides adding it to the debt. On the other hand, you got a nice tax cut, instead, and even a 1 time government stimulus check. (of course none of that has been paid for either).
US Treasury could sell GM shares in summer or fall
From ReutersApril 19, 2011
Reuters (New York) - The U.S. Treasury could sell a big chunk of its remaining 33 percent stake in General Motors Co in the summer or fall, a person with knowledge of the matter said on Monday, although doing so may lead to more losses for it on the automaker's bailout.
Lue C Fur
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wkmac
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Lue C Fur
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Thanks for the link WK. I have been saying this from the begining that we will never get our money back from GM. When our gooberment announced they would sell shares below the 53.00 break even point i knew that was the nail in the coffin. Today the shares are at 30.82 well below the IPO price. Now the question will be...will the main stream media let the tax payers know this or will they sweep in under a rug as not to tarnish the Messiah image?
