Ground Folks: Reactions to Delivering Express

[bacha29]

No- I am saying that they can't control who you hire, how many employees you must have as a minimum, or how you want to get the work accomplished. You must control the manner of producing the desired results if you are really independent UNDER THE LAW. Fedex has merely managed to make you so dependent that you can't even use the law to enforce the independence you claim. If you even tried to pay your drivers as contractors like Uber and lyft, you would be violating a condition solely included to make fedex safer. At best, you are a contract employee with a budget to perform work for the company based on the size of the area and population/area demand.
Your budget is disguised as payment for services, but is really a carefully controlled amount with you have very limited chance to increase your profit through innovation. If you had aa few packages discovered after dispatch, could you call an Uber driver or a local delivery service to deliver them instead of buying or renting an extra vehicle that would only be used intermittently??? No. If you were really a legally independent business, fedex would only set the outcome they desire, not how you achieve it.

Spot on man You're far more dependent than you independent. And what little autonomy they do afford that so called "independent " is small and petty compared to the bigger scheme of things and even that is subject to the direct oversight of company management .If Sam IWBF and the others want to go on believing that they are these 'entrepreneurs" soon to be on the front cover of Forbes, let them have their fun .They're really not hurting anything.

 

[Mindthegap]

The genie is out of the bottle. They will only ever give ground more, not less, eventually phasing out express couriers. Maybe not tomorrow, but eventually. Welcome to being the boiling frog.

How y’all feel about this post now?

 

[MAKAVELI]

How y’all feel about this post now?

Same as before. When you say maybe not tomorrow, that says it all.

 

[bbsam]

How y’all feel about this post now?

Probably better than Express guys do.

 

[SmithBarney]

I hardly know any contractors that drive regularly anymore. There might be 1 or 2 out of the 15ish in my main terminal. The Ground network could handle pretty much all Express volume, the only issue would be time commits that I expect will always remain for Express PT couriers.

1 main problem, timing, what time do you currently get on road... In our area FXG is on the road at ~745, express planes haven't even been unloaded yet.. how will ground cope with that, there is some 2/3day stuff that makes it in by way of truck so it could make the FXG sort, but the stuff that flies you won't see in time.. FXE will probably be left with a third of its current staff, working part time. The only way they'd keep them full time is if they pulled some ground freight.

 

[It will be fine]

1 main problem, timing, what time do you currently get on road... In our area FXG is on the road at ~745, express planes haven't even been unloaded yet.. how will ground cope with that, there is some 2/3day stuff that makes it in by way of truck so it could make the FXG sort, but the stuff that flies you won't see in time.. FXE will probably be left with a third of its current staff, working part time. The only way they'd keep them full time is if they pulled some ground freight.

We don’t plan on leaving until 9:30. I haven’t seen a consistent dispatch before 8 in more than a decade. I think when the transition is complete there is going to be a lot more freight that stays on the ground and never flies. Ground can take a lot of volume from Express without flight times even being a consideration.

 

[SmithBarney]

We don’t plan on leaving until 9:30. I haven’t seen a consistent dispatch before 8 in more than a decade. I think when the transition is complete there is going to be a lot more freight that stays on the ground and never flies. Ground can take a lot of volume from Express without flight times even being a consideration.

We're in a test market, our ground location is 25 minutes closer to the airport than we are. Ground hasn't been able to do it.. I don't doubt FDX will do away with all of us when they can, just glad I have a few more months to search for a new job than some of the small stations nearby that will be shuttered.

 

[Gone fishin]

We don’t plan on leaving until 9:30. I haven’t seen a consistent dispatch before 8 in more than a decade. I think when the transition is complete there is going to be a lot more freight that stays on the ground and never flies. Ground can take a lot of volume from Express without flight times even being a consideration.

That’s not happening

 

[It will be fine]

That’s not happening

It’s already happening. Have you not been paying attention? What do you think LMO is? Ground has been trucking Express freight for years. That’s the entire point of the merger.

 

[Gone fishin]

It’s already happening. Have you not been paying attention? What do you think LMO is? Ground has been trucking Express freight for years. That’s the entire point of the merger.

Planes aren’t waiting on ground to be ready. You have hours not days. You get express freight loaded and go.

 

[Nolimitz]

It’s already happening. Have you not been paying attention? What do you think LMO is? Ground has been trucking Express freight for years. That’s the entire point of the merger.

picking up distant FO and P1 will be a total cluster friend

 

[Gone fishin]

picking up distant FO and P1 will be a total cluster friend

They really have no clue what we do. It’s amazing

 

[yadig]

It’s already happening. Have you not been paying attention? What do you think LMO is? Ground has been trucking Express freight for years. That’s the entire point of the merger.

They ain’t trucking it they’re delivering it

 

[It will be fine]

They ain’t trucking it they’re delivering it

LMO enters the Ground system at the point of origin not the destination. They are trucking it now and will be trucking a lot more in the near future.

 

[MAKAVELI]

LMO enters the Ground system at the point of origin not the destination. They are trucking it now and will be trucking a lot more in the near future.

4Z is a small percentage of our deferred freight. Not what you think it is.

 

[yadig]

LMO enters the Ground system at the point of origin not the destination. They are trucking it now and will be trucking a lot more in the near future.

Trust me you’re wrong. Ask dano

 

[Cactus]

It’s already happening. Have you not been paying attention? What do you think LMO is? Ground has been trucking Express freight for years. That’s the entire point of the merger.

Yeah, trucking Express packages right back to the Express stations.

 

[It will be fine]

4Z is a small percentage of our deferred freight. Not what you think it is.

It’s a test that is severely limited by the operation of separate delivery networks. It’s a proof of concept plan. The merge will make it much easier to truck a lot of Express freight. Why are you guys still so deeply in denial?

 

[vantexan]

It’s a test that is severely limited by the operation of separate delivery networks. It’s a proof of concept plan. The merge will make it much easier to truck a lot of Express freight. Why are you guys still so deeply in denial?

They've seen too many grand ideas fall by the wayside. Better hope FedEx gets this right because it could mean the demise of your company if they screw it up badly.

 

[It will be fine]

They've seen too many grand ideas fall by the wayside. Better hope FedEx gets this right because it could mean the demise of your company if they screw it up badly.

There’s too much money at stake for it to not work. It’ll work because it has to. I’m not too worried.