I agree but think that will take away from what current employees raises will be. Hey, maybe O’Brien can pull this off.
Guess RPCD pay progression for new contract
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That would be nice.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Brownslave688
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Brownslave688
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This is exactly why I say starting pay shouldn’t be a bargaining chip. Why call it a win for the union when it’s something they have to do.
Well you know they will spin it as a win
Sixth Punch Sense
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2023 $44
2024 $45.50
2025 $47.50
2026 $48
2027 $51
2024 $45.50
2025 $47.50
2026 $48
2027 $51
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Sean O is really worried about starting at more than Amazon
It's a lot different than I started here years ago.
The new kids are not worried about a pension and fantastic health Care.
rod
Retired 22 years
What's a mortgage?
rod
Retired 22 years
2023-$3,000 a month
2024-$3,000 " "
2025- $3,000 " "
2026- $3,000 " "
2027- $3,000 " "
I have NOT been lurking
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Its_a_me
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The current 6% inflation rate from 2022 means a 6% raise is needed to maintain spending power (which doesn't include compensation for company's record profitability during the last contract).
If inflation doesn't get tamed then it could be a very lean contract regardless---that is a potential issue with 5 year deals. COLA helps, but a 3% inflator means our paychecks are worth less today than a year ago even after that COLA adjustment. The GWI is what is making up for it--and that means there is zero reward for making the company the most profitable ever. This contract has to reflect that.
However, there are non-financial issues that must be addressed. And the union getting significant movement in those is how the company reels back in wages.
The increase for PT'ers reflects the competition for low wage earners along with the Teamsters desire to organize Amazon. It's hard to organize if your star company's wages are less than the non-unionized facility (even if benefits aren't equal).
I expect the company to screw around with proposals to cut benefits such as limiting prescriptions on the formulary tables (think forced generics instead of brand names or having to pay for over the counter products instead of getting prescriptions covered) or forcing you to a doctor in their network with a higher out of network penalty--plus changing yearly deductible to 250/400 (individual/family) by the end of the contract. Maybe installing a yearly max on the dental payouts or increasing the number of years for a filling to be fixed and covered--something like that. But definitely sneaky stuff that doesn't show up in the bullet point highlights of a proposal.
Wages are important--but if they screw around with other things enough...you can get a 15% raise and still lose out in the transaction. Unless you are that 25 and under crowd on your parents insurance still. So lets stop focusing on dollar amount as the end all be all.
If inflation doesn't get tamed then it could be a very lean contract regardless---that is a potential issue with 5 year deals. COLA helps, but a 3% inflator means our paychecks are worth less today than a year ago even after that COLA adjustment. The GWI is what is making up for it--and that means there is zero reward for making the company the most profitable ever. This contract has to reflect that.
However, there are non-financial issues that must be addressed. And the union getting significant movement in those is how the company reels back in wages.
| RPCD GWI | Air | PT existing | New PT after Aug 1 |
| 2023 $44 | $27 | wage + $2.50 OR $21 which ever is higher | $21 (have to be higher than Amazon's 19) |
| 2024 $45 | $28.50 | 2023 # + $1 | $21.75 |
| 2025 $46.25 | $30 | 2024 # + $1.25 | $22.75 |
| 2026 $47.75 | $31.75 | 2025 # + $1.50 | $24 |
| 2027 $50 | $34 | 2026 # + $2.25 | $25.50 |
The increase for PT'ers reflects the competition for low wage earners along with the Teamsters desire to organize Amazon. It's hard to organize if your star company's wages are less than the non-unionized facility (even if benefits aren't equal).
I expect the company to screw around with proposals to cut benefits such as limiting prescriptions on the formulary tables (think forced generics instead of brand names or having to pay for over the counter products instead of getting prescriptions covered) or forcing you to a doctor in their network with a higher out of network penalty--plus changing yearly deductible to 250/400 (individual/family) by the end of the contract. Maybe installing a yearly max on the dental payouts or increasing the number of years for a filling to be fixed and covered--something like that. But definitely sneaky stuff that doesn't show up in the bullet point highlights of a proposal.
Wages are important--but if they screw around with other things enough...you can get a 15% raise and still lose out in the transaction. Unless you are that 25 and under crowd on your parents insurance still. So lets stop focusing on dollar amount as the end all be all.
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Very good points. I'm a young driver and the insurance is EXTREMELY important for me anyway. If insurance is changed the dollar amount raises won't matter as much.
Cowboy Mac
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That’s a nice chart, but I didn’t know all that health care was in our contract. What article is dental fillings?
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
I didn’t see anything about turkey’s either.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
The company doesn't have anything to do with the administration of the H&W plans.
Its_a_me
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It's a company paid benefit and that contribution sets the plan's budget. Failure to take rising costs into it means budget cuts.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
"Most" employee's are in multi-employer health plans.
Going into negotiation's.... the IBT has a full financial prospectus for the various plans.
It's what determines the amount of contributions they need to negotiate to maintain the level of benefits.
Thats not going to change.
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