I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

1989

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40% of america no retirement savings:

Richard D. Wolff‏Verified account @profwolff Apr 15




Employers continue profiting by lowering pensions for ever-fewer employees & changing their structures. Many millions now face either poverty in retirement (if they can retire) or else burdening their children. Another part of American dream turns into a nightmare for millions.

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Not an issue for any of my coworkers.
 

rickyb

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Do you have the China wage grown chart in 1982-1984 dollars to compare? Or even a chart for any other nation that you tout?
chinas real wages are going up in multiples.

american real wages rose for 150 years if i recall and ended in 1973.
 

rickyb

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i had a total eureka moment of how this system of control works.

so we always hear about how america prides itself on individualism. im thinking this is a huge propaganda system now:

the way to stop power abuse is solidarity with each other and putting yourself in other peoples shoes. for example, if a coworker is abused by a supervisor, you can support that coworker by reporting it, and not talking to the supervisor and doing worker slow downs.

so basically the american propaganda of individualism is a way of stopping all this so people with power can do whatever they bloody well please. individualism is also a sham philosophy because the truth is we are products of our environment to a large extent. when you act like you are in control of your life, you are setting yourself up for failure.
 

1989

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chinas real wages are going up in multiples.

american real wages rose for 150 years if i recall and ended in 1973.
China can hardly compare China wages with US wages. 24 yuan which is on the high side. Is about $3.59 usd.

So no, again, you have nothing to compare?
 

rickyb

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China can hardly compare China wages with US wages. 24 yuan which is on the high side. Is about $3.59 usd.

So no, again, you have nothing to compare?
finding real wage growth is not something im familiar with i only know chinas are very quickly rising.

theres gotta be a few EU countries whos real wages are rising. canadas isnt.
 

1989

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finding real wage growth is not something im familiar with i only know chinas are very quickly rising.

theres gotta be a few EU countries whos real wages are rising. canadas isnt.
So China has been around for 4000 years and just now they have wage growth @ $3.59 or .55 in 1970 money.

Show me some growing wages in the EU. Or anywhere, other than a super low wage nation.
 

rickyb

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So China has been around for 4000 years and just now they have wage growth @ $3.59 or .55 in 1970 money.

Show me some growing wages in the EU. Or anywhere, other than a super low wage nation.
wth are you talking about.

china is going up in multiples for wage growth. they are rapidly catching up to american levels of wages.
 
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