I got into my first fender bender with a parked car, whats to follow?

[Aquaman]

I have seen employee hit a mailbox. Then sent to safety school across state. Mileage pay and hotel provided along with regular pay. Over a slightly bent mailbox

That’s express spending for ya lol. They make sure they spend it all before October every year.

 

[Cactus]

I wanna say it was 3 in 18months?

I think it’s three accidents in six years. Yes, a letter for sure, which puts you on the hot seat for one year. I

I was thinking 3 letters in 12 months. Someone know for sure?

You’re right. 3 in 12. And it’s definitely not 3 accidents in 6 years.

Who really knows for sure?

The accident policy could change by Tuesday.

There's too many people in Memphis that have nothing better to do than revise any given policy on a whim.

 

[Working4the1%]

I bet they had prior accidents.

Not According to him. He was a 15 year swing driver and loved it. Remember thinking this guys nuts. Who wants to be a long term swing driver

 

[Maui]

So this sucks. Im a midday and bid on and was accepted for a full time am job (perfect timing btw with winter coming). Right before im about to go on vacation, I was going to take my lunch and parked too close to a car right next to me. I go to leave and I end up clipping the corner bumper of this older car with my sprinter van. Both the sprinter and the other car took some minor damage. I am aware of the horrible turning radius of the sprinters but this oncoming van kind of distracted me and I took my eyes off of my side mirror for a second.

I would say ive been a very good employee minus this incident which im pretty pissed off about because I know better.
I assume I will get a warning letter?
How many accidents or incidents are you allowed per year?
I think my manager likes me, but I understand anything like this is beyond him.
Will these warning letters eventually clear from your record?

Thats the only thing about this line of work, a couple of wrong moves and thats your job.

Were you moving forward or backward when you hit the other vehicle? Based on this statement I assume this was in a parking lot moving forward. If this is your first preventable accident then it should be an OLCC and a post-accident check ride. If you were backing it's probably a letter. In most places also a meeting with the Senior Manager and/or safety specialist. Just know these cost about $18000 each and that gets charged to the station (in years past it was closer to 25K).

The applicable policy is 8-90 Vehicle Accidents/Occurrences. Table 1 lists the minimum consequence for several types of preventable accidents. The policy also outlines what could disqualify you from driving. I won't list everything because the policy is long, but in general 5 preventable accidents in 3 years or 6 in 5 years. If you have a FedEx or DOT serious accident you get remedial training. This can only happen 2X in your career - a third is disqualifying. Some moving violations count toward the 3/5 number as well so follow traffic laws while in a FedEx vehicle.

Runaway vehicles typically result in termination if there isn't a demonstrated mechanical problem.

The 3 in 12 referenced above refers to both 2-5 Acceptable Conduct and 2-50 Performance. Any combination of 3 letters of deficiency (PR or WL) usually results in termination.

 

[Working4the1%]

Yes. A runaway vehicle is termination. That’s why I lied. Nothing to lose….still here

 

[Wally]

I think it will buff right out.

 

[Guitarman01]

Were you moving forward or backward when you hit the other vehicle? Based on this statement I assume this was in a parking lot moving forward. If this is your first preventable accident then it should be an OLCC and a post-accident check ride. If you were backing it's probably a letter. In most places also a meeting with the Senior Manager and/or safety specialist. Just know these cost about $18000 each and that gets charged to the station (in years past it was closer to 25K).

The applicable policy is 8-90 Vehicle Accidents/Occurrences. Table 1 lists the minimum consequence for several types of preventable accidents. The policy also outlines what could disqualify you from driving. I won't list everything because the policy is long, but in general 5 preventable accidents in 3 years or 6 in 5 years. If you have a FedEx or DOT serious accident you get remedial training. This can only happen 2X in your career - a third is disqualifying. Some moving violations count toward the 3/5 number as well so follow traffic laws while in a FedEx vehicle.

Runaway vehicles typically result in termination if there isn't a demonstrated mechanical problem.

The 3 in 12 referenced above refers to both 2-5 Acceptable Conduct and 2-50 Performance. Any combination of 3 letters of deficiency (PR or WL) usually results in termination.

Thanks for the detailed reply, could you break down some of this terminology for me though?
Yes I was pulling forward and turned at too
sharp of an angle and clipped the corner bumper of the car next to me and dented the sprinter sliding cargo door. Backing is considered worse?
What is an OLCC?
Honestly the job I just accepted is DOT, I will be driving the bigger Isuzu. That might actually be easier though, good visibility and I know they turn sharper and you'll always be reminded your in a truck. I think the sprinters give this false sense that you are driving a small van, but they drive much differently then that.
I am suppose to start after I come back from vacation, I already signed the offer letter. Hopefully this doesnt have any impact on that.

The applicable policy is 8-90 Vehicle Accidents/Occurrences.

What does this mean and where is this table and policy?

Thanks.

 

[falcon back]

Were you moving forward or backward when you hit the other vehicle? Based on this statement I assume this was in a parking lot moving forward. If this is your first preventable accident then it should be an OLCC and a post-accident check ride. If you were backing it's probably a letter. In most places also a meeting with the Senior Manager and/or safety specialist. Just know these cost about $18000 each and that gets charged to the station (in years past it was closer to 25K).

The applicable policy is 8-90 Vehicle Accidents/Occurrences. Table 1 lists the minimum consequence for several types of preventable accidents. The policy also outlines what could disqualify you from driving. I won't list everything because the policy is long, but in general 5 preventable accidents in 3 years or 6 in 5 years. If you have a FedEx or DOT serious accident you get remedial training. This can only happen 2X in your career - a third is disqualifying. Some moving violations count toward the 3/5 number as well so follow traffic laws while in a FedEx vehicle.

Runaway vehicles typically result in termination if there isn't a demonstrated mechanical problem.

The 3 in 12 referenced above refers to both 2-5 Acceptable Conduct and 2-50 Performance. Any combination of 3 letters of deficiency (PR or WL) usually results in termination.

Unless they went 180 degrees on discipline, pulling forward out of a parking place and hitting another vehicle would be more than OLCC. I know backing accidents could be an automatic suspension but I find an OLCC to be a little light for his accident.

 

[rod]

I think my manager likes me, but I understand anything like this is beyond him.
Will these warning letters eventually clear from your record?

Thats the only thing about this line of work, a couple of wrong moves and thats your job.

Management don't like anybody.

 

[Operational needs]

Thanks for the detailed reply, could you break down some of this terminology for me though?
Yes I was pulling forward and turned at too
sharp of an angle and clipped the corner bumper of the car next to me and dented the sprinter sliding cargo door. Backing is considered worse?
What is an OLCC?
Honestly the job I just accepted is DOT, I will be driving the bigger Isuzu. That might actually be easier though, good visibility and I know they turn sharper and you'll always be reminded your in a truck. I think the sprinters give this false sense that you are driving a small van, but they drive much differently then that.
I am suppose to start after I come back from vacation, I already signed the offer letter. Hopefully this doesnt have any impact on that.

What does this mean and where is this table and policy?

Thanks.

You can believe what Maui says because he was a manager and is very knowledgeable on Policy. He‘ll give you no nonsense answers.

 

[Maui]

Thanks for the detailed reply, could you break down some of this terminology for me though?
Yes I was pulling forward and turned at too
sharp of an angle and clipped the corner bumper of the car next to me and dented the sprinter sliding cargo door. Backing is considered worse?
What is an OLCC?
Honestly the job I just accepted is DOT, I will be driving the bigger Isuzu. That might actually be easier though, good visibility and I know they turn sharper and you'll always be reminded your in a truck. I think the sprinters give this false sense that you are driving a small van, but they drive much differently then that.
I am suppose to start after I come back from vacation, I already signed the offer letter. Hopefully this doesnt have any impact on that.

What does this mean and where is this table and policy?

Thanks.

Yes backing is worse. Only back when absolutely necessary and there are no other options.

An OLCC is an online counseling or compliment. It is FedEx’s way of documenting conversations. These are not discipline, but repeated evidence of the same performance deficiencies could result in discipline - performance reminder or warning letter. Effectively there’s no real difference between those two so I’ll leave it there for that.

FedEx has several manuals that outline policy. The most common is the People Manual. 8-90 is the policy number from the people manual that applies to accidents. You can access on a FedEx device only.

Take the time to get to know whatever truck you’re driving. Ask a manager for a few more minutes for pre-trip while you familiarize yourself with the controls and make sure the mirrors are adjusted just right. In a safe space get to know how the truck turns and handles. Evaluate how close you think you are to something and then get out and look. There’s usually a healthy fear of a bigger truck at first, but we get comfortable. Try to keep that slight concern that makes you focus wholly on driving while you’re operating a vehicle.

With the facts presented there should be no discipline here. We learn from our mistakes and get better.

 

[Guitarman01]

With the facts presented there should be no discipline here.

Thanks.
I guess I will find out soon enough, although it will probably be the following week when I get back from vacation. I hope your right. I would definitely feel a little more edgy with a warning letter on my back going into peak.

 

[FedexCares]

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Thanks for the detailed reply, could you break down some of this terminology for me though?
Yes I was pulling forward and turned at too
sharp of an angle and clipped the corner bumper of the car next to me and dented the sprinter sliding cargo door. Backing is considered worse?
What is an OLCC?
Honestly the job I just accepted is DOT, I will be driving the bigger Isuzu. That might actually be easier though, good visibility and I know they turn sharper and you'll always be reminded your in a truck. I think the sprinters give this false sense that you are driving a small van, but they drive much differently then that.
I am suppose to start after I come back from vacation, I already signed the offer letter. Hopefully this doesnt have any impact on that.

What does this mean and where is this table and policy?

Thanks.

I think you’ll love the Isuzu reach. I drove one for a few years and the turning radius was very good for a truck that size. Also liked the steps leading down from the cabin of the vehicle, as they are easier on the knees when carrying packages.

I drove a sprinter for a few years as well, and I while I probably prefer it over the Isuzu most of the time, some days I wished i had my old reach which had a ton of space for those heavy package days and were easy to drive. I think I liked the isuzus more then most though, as they seemed to get a lot of hate mostly for their lack of power which didn’t really bother me.

 

[Fred's Myth]

z

I think you’ll love the Isuzu reach. I drove one for a few years and the turning radius was very good for a truck that size. Also liked the steps leading down from the cabin of the vehicle, as they are easier on the knees when carrying packages.

I drove a sprinter for a few years as well, and I while I probably prefer it over the Isuzu most of the time, some days I wished i had my old reach which had a ton of space for those heavy package days and were easy to drive. I think I liked the isuzus more then most though, as they seemed to get a lot of hate mostly for their lack of power which didn’t really bother me.

You'll love the Isuzu Reach, if you can, or are prepared to, live without your kidneys. Driving one for any length of time will leave them bruised, and subject to medical complications.

 

[falcon back]

You'll love the Isuzu Reach, if you can, or are prepared to, live without your kidneys. Driving one for any length of time will leave them bruised, and subject to medical complications.

The ride is rough but the visibility and ease of maneuvering makes up for that.

 

[Star B]

You'll love the Isuzu Reach, if you can, or are prepared to, live without your kidneys. Driving one for any length of time will leave them bruised, and subject to medical complications.

Smooth roads and year-round highs of 67 degree weather are best for the reaches. Anything other than that and they suck.

 

[Guitarman01]

Smooth roads and year-round highs of 67 degree weather are best for the reaches. Anything other than that and they suck.

I thought they had a/c?

 

[Fred's Myth]

I thought they had a/c?

During winter with the passenger door open.

 

[59 Dano]

Just know these cost about $18000 each and that gets charged to the station (in years past it was closer to 25K).

That's a bit of misleading accounting BS that has always irked me.

They take the total expense of all incidents, accidents, etc. and divide it by the number of events. That sounds good, but it also includes the salaries of the safety guys and others. Those explenses/salaries make up a large chunk of the total expense and are static regardless of the number of events and the amount of damage.

It doesn't matter in the long run but it's a pet peeve.

 

[Guitarman01]

You'll love the Isuzu Reach, if you can, or are prepared to, live without your kidneys. Driving one for any length of time will leave them bruised, and subject to medical complications.

I swear multiple people told me the dot trucks had a/c. Im not sure if I have ever heard them referred to as Reach's either. Are there any other dot trucks in the fleet other then the Reach that might have a/c?