Infrastructure Plan big win for Fedex

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
I had no employees. When I looked at the rates and settlements that would be available to pay them I knew as those who followed learned the hard way was that nobody would stay and as we can plainly see that it would simply be an attrition game.
I was using the generalized 'you', not the personal 'you'.

I stand by my statement.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Don't need to. It will be a class action suit and the lead plaintiffs will be at the top of the page.
So you can't name a single one of these illegals that were separated from their children?

At any point in your life do you ever question the narrative your left wing masters sell you?
 

oldrps

Well-Known Member
Got it. Replacing a 6 foot chain link fence with a 20ft steel barrier is not "new wall", it's just repairing existing wall.

If that's the kind of silly stuff you choose to fall for, go for it little buddy. For those of us living in the real world, we're grateful for President Donald Trump.
It is obvious by your picture that is a construction fence, not the previous wall. I simply stated what was in the government report and if you say that is silly, talk to the government, it's their report. As I said before, if the wall is substandard, then it should be replaced.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Don't feed me this bull crap especially when you stated many times that you go out of country to save money . You wouldn't do it if you didn't. And once again you bash the Dems while sticking your hand out to collect every dime you can get from one of those evil Democrat social programs.
BTW as for the 450,000 proposed settlement, it is being offered to the families who Trump separated at the border and are suing and given the strong likelihood that they would win collecting many times more in damages the pressure is on to try to limit the damages to what an out of court settlement can achieve.

As for future elections, the American people didn't like what you people were doing in 2018 and 2020. And like even less your ongoing efforts to undermine the 2020 election .
They were here illegally. And as has been pointed out before if someone breaks the law they are put in jail and separated from their kids. And as the pics show from 2014 the Obama administration was doing this also. Please tell me how it's justified to pay that kind of money when military families who lose a loved one only get $100k?

I've traveled to 13 countries so far. I love travel and gladly do it. You think the world lives in cardboard boxes and eats excrement to survive. You have no clue. When I was recently in Oaxaca, Mexico along with local restaurants I ate at McDonald's, Burger King, Pizza Hut, and Domino's. Went to a modern theater to watch American movies in English. In three months I was approached by only two people asking for a handout. People get up and go to work at regular jobs and live in homes and dress nicely. Much nicer on average than young Americans. You simply have no clue as to how the world lives and probably wouldn't like it there because their culture demands that people make their own way by working. They take pride in their appearance and their work ethic. And have very strong families. The horror. Yes there is poverty. About 40% of Mexicans live below the poverty line. That means 60% live ok on up to fabulously well. Those that live below that line scramble to work at anything that might provide some income. Those are the ones typically who decide to try the U.S. I don't blame them for coming, I would do the same. But notice they don't all come. Most prefer their own circumstances to heading north. And many Mexicans who do go north send money home to family to build homes and start businesses. And ultimately return home. You think they're all dying to get to the land of milk and honey so that they can live off government handouts. If you haven't noticed much of the hard work done these days is by Mexicans and other Latin Americans who see work as what you do to support your family, not something beneath you that your dignity won't allow you to do. All I've ever said is control the border so you know who is coming in. Root out the criminal element because not all Latin Americans are hard working decent people. They have a criminal element too and those people need to be removed. And instead of putting a huge strain on an already overburdened social services system have a guest worker program that keeps families in their home countries while a parent works here. They have a family support system at home that takes care of things. Those who are against allowing them in for any reason don't seem to understand how dependent we've become on that labor. With a guest worker program businesses that can't find local workers to do a job, and they have to demonstrate they can't, can bring in needed workers. That would be better than paying illegals a lot less to do work Americans WILL do, like construction for example, but now Americans are screwed out of work by people who are willing to work for less and employers who take advantage of that. You can spit and foam at the mouth all you want but there are numerous ways to do things better than the current letting in millions of unvetted people including criminals and putting it all on the American taxpayer to support them, taking away jobs taxpayers need.

As for Argentina, they are 85% Caucasian. 52% of the population is of Italian ancestry. 25% of Spanish ancestry. The rest of varying European countries included of British and Irish ancestry. Che' Guevera was half Irish. And there are some of native American ancestry, especially up near Bolivia. The country isn't a third world developing nation. It's a first world nation with severe financial problems. Why? They practice a form of socialism named after the former president Juan Peron, Peronism. Argentina once per capita was the richest country on Earth. Why do you think all those Europeans immigrated there? But they have pretty much destroyed that. And need tourists to come in, expats to come there, and bring hard currency. I'm not going to live it up. Going there to save. When the time comes will get a nice apartment and spend most of my income there. And guess what? Your ancestors came to the U.S. for the opportunity also. If having a decent life in the U.S. for many is no longer feasible then people can do exactly what your ancestors did, leave and go where they hope to have it better. For me that's Argentina. They still have a beautiful country with great food and strong families. They abhor violence for the most part and overall it's safer than the U.S. And I know it pains you, but the state doesn't own me. I'm free to go where I please. Left up to you I'd be trapped in the States working on my neuropathic feet until I drop dead. Take your autocratic tendencies elsewhere.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Unless you get all your info from FOX News, apparently not.
All of Mueller's team were Democrats including some very close to, and major donors to, the Clintons. If they couldn't find collusion I doubt anyone else can either. Especially since the whole collusion narrative was based on a totally debunked dossier funded by the Clinton campaign. And now Special Counsel John Durham is starting to indict players in that scheme. FOX News this, FOX News that, and you don't even realize you were totally played by the Democratic, and some Republicans too, establishment who were willing to do anything to keep Trump from messing up the status quo in Washington.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
They were here illegally. And as has been pointed out before if someone breaks the law they are put in jail and separated from their kids. And as the pics show from 2014 the Obama administration was doing this also. Please tell me how it's justified to pay that kind of money when military families who lose a loved one only get $100k?

I've traveled to 13 countries so far. I love travel and gladly do it. You think the world lives in cardboard boxes and eats excrement to survive. You have no clue. When I was recently in Oaxaca, Mexico along with local restaurants I ate at McDonald's, Burger King, Pizza Hut, and Domino's. Went to a modern theater to watch American movies in English. In three months I was approached by only two people asking for a handout. People get up and go to work at regular jobs and live in homes and dress nicely. Much nicer on average than young Americans. You simply have no clue as to how the world lives and probably wouldn't like it there because their culture demands that people make their own way by working. They take pride in their appearance and their work ethic. And have very strong families. The horror. Yes there is poverty. About 40% of Mexicans live below the poverty line. That means 60% live ok on up to fabulously well. Those that live below that line scramble to work at anything that might provide some income. Those are the ones typically who decide to try the U.S. I don't blame them for coming, I would do the same. But notice they don't all come. Most prefer their own circumstances to heading north. And many Mexicans who do go north send money home to family to build homes and start businesses. And ultimately return home. You think they're all dying to get to the land of milk and honey so that they can live off government handouts. If you haven't noticed much of the hard work done these days is by Mexicans and other Latin Americans who see work as what you do to support your family, not something beneath you that your dignity won't allow you to do. All I've ever said is control the border so you know who is coming in. Root out the criminal element because not all Latin Americans are hard working decent people. They have a criminal element too and those people need to be removed. And instead of putting a huge strain on an already overburdened social services system have a guest worker program that keeps families in their home countries while a parent works here. They have a family support system at home that takes care of things. Those who are against allowing them in for any reason don't seem to understand how dependent we've become on that labor. With a guest worker program businesses that can't find local workers to do a job, and they have to demonstrate they can't, can bring in needed workers. That would be better than paying illegals a lot less to do work Americans WILL do, like construction for example, but now Americans are screwed out of work by people who are willing to work for less and employers who take advantage of that. You can spit and foam at the mouth all you want but there are numerous ways to do things better than the current letting in millions of unvetted people including criminals and putting it all on the American taxpayer to support them, taking away jobs taxpayers need.

As for Argentina, they are 85% Caucasian. 52% of the population is of Italian ancestry. 25% of Spanish ancestry. The rest of varying European countries included of British and Irish ancestry. Che' Guevera was half Irish. And there are some of native American ancestry, especially up near Bolivia. The country isn't a third world developing nation. It's a first world nation with severe financial problems. Why? They practice a form of socialism named after the former president Juan Peron, Peronism. Argentina once per capita was the richest country on Earth. Why do you think all those Europeans immigrated there? But they have pretty much destroyed that. And need tourists to come in, expats to come there, and bring hard currency. I'm not going to live it up. Going there to save. When the time comes will get a nice apartment and spend most of my income there. And guess what? Your ancestors came to the U.S. for the opportunity also. If having a decent life in the U.S. for many is no longer feasible then people can do exactly what your ancestors did, leave and go where they hope to have it better. For me that's Argentina. They still have a beautiful country with great food and strong families. They abhor violence for the most part and overall it's safer than the U.S. And I know it pains you, but the state doesn't own me. I'm free to go where I please. Left up to you I'd be trapped in the States working on my neuropathic feet until I drop dead. Take your autocratic tendencies elsewhere.
And here you are bragging about how good you have it by what is undeniably a clear exploitation of developing nations poverty. You keep saying that you're not going there to take advantage of the economic duress those nations are experiencing while at the very same time bragging about how your able to capitalize on that very situation.... A clear and indisputable contradiction .
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
You accused DIDO specifically. He challenged you to specifically name just one of HIS right wing extremist political views.

You took the cowards way out.
Gaetz, Jordon, Kennedy How many more do you think you need? Doesn't matter he says the same thing over and over again. If he wants to truly criticize the left the best and most effective way to do is to offer new policy proposals that are something different that what we've heard out of the right over an over again. Something that stands a chance of making it out of committee .
 
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