Injury reporting process.

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OLDMAN3

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See your own doctor immediately. Go to the UPS doctor only if required, and then only after you see your own. It will be harder for the UPS doctor to disagree with the diagnosis/treatment prescribed by your doctor if you already saw your own. Make it clear you are not accepting treatment from the UPS doctor, you will use your own. Once you see a doctor 2 times in a row without a visit to a different one you have "chosen" that doctor. So see your own first, then if they make you see theirs, see yours before another visit to the UPS doc. Make sure your manager reports the injury and ask for a copy of the injury report.

Let me warn you, around here UPS will send you to a "specialist". This particular doctor is known by all the workers comp lawyers as the doctor they use specifically to deny claims and/or treatment. You have been warned... If you use the UPS doctor he has split loyalties, and UPS pays the bills, so guess who he is most loyal to? You want a doctor who only cares about getting you healed, not one who is pressured to send you back to work before you are ready, or who denies procedures because of cost. We have had MANY such cases.

Also do not let the manager wait for you at the doctor or set up a meeting between the manager,you, and the doctor. Go to the doctor yourself and don't let the manager interfere with your care.
 
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OLDMAN3

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Your State likely has a workers comp hotline to ask about your rights. Also your local likely has an attorney on contingency that you could talk to for free.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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Also do not let the manager wait for you at the doctor or set up a meeting between the manager,you, and the doctor. Go to the doctor yourself and don't let the manager interfere with your care.

The last time I was injured (rolled ankle) my on-car was directed to go with me to the ER.
 
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OLDMAN3

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The last time I was injured (rolled ankle) my on-car was directed to go with me to the ER.

I have no doubt he was. However you should have then told him to go away.

National Master:
The Employer agrees to provide any employee injured locally immediate transportation, at the time of injury, from the job to the nearest appropriate medical facility and return to the job, or to the employee’s home, if required. In such cases, no representative of the Employer shall be permitted to accompany the injured worker while he/she is receiving medical treatment and/or being examined by the medical provider, without the employee’s consent.

The wording is in the contract because of past abuses by management trying to influence the doctors restrictions. That is why you should see your own doctor and do not allow a supervisor to be present when examined by the UPS doctor or your own.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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I have no doubt he was. However you should have then told him to go away.

National Master:
The Employer agrees to provide any employee injured locally immediate transportation, at the time of injury, from the job to the nearest appropriate medical facility and return to the job, or to the employee’s home, if required. In such cases, no representative of the Employer shall be permitted to accompany the injured worker while he/she is receiving medical treatment and/or being examined by the medical provider, without the employee’s consent.

The wording is in the contract because of past abuses by management trying to influence the doctors restrictions. That is why you should see your own doctor and do not allow a supervisor to be present when examined by the UPS doctor or your own.

Did I say he was in the room while I was being examined?

I didn't want him there and he didn't want to be there but it is company policy that a member of management go with an injured hourly when they seek medical treatment.

After my exam we decided that a couple of sick days would do the trick.
 

Mugarolla

Light 'em up!
I have no doubt he was. However you should have then told him to go away.

National Master:
The Employer agrees to provide any employee injured locally immediate transportation, at the time of injury, from the job to the nearest appropriate medical facility and return to the job, or to the employee’s home, if required. In such cases, no representative of the Employer shall be permitted to accompany the injured worker while he/she is receiving medical treatment and/or being examined by the medical provider, without the employee’s consent.

The wording is in the contract because of past abuses by management trying to influence the doctors restrictions. That is why you should see your own doctor and do not allow a supervisor to be present when examined by the UPS doctor or your own.
UPS can take you to the ER. But they have to remain in the waiting room while you are treated.
 
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OLDMAN3

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UPS can take you to the ER. But they have to remain in the waiting room while you are treated.
I have personally witnessed management pressuring the doctor to shorten the time the injured employee is to be restricted from full duty while the injured employee is waiting in the examination room. I have also heard from several injured employees who said their manager pressured them to ask the doctor to rewrite their restrictions so the center does not take a DART injury. I tell the supervisors / managers to leave the premises and they do so. I remember reading that they do not have the right to remain at the doctors office if you tell them to leave. It is possible this is a State law or perhaps a panel decision. I will try to locate where I read this. But I know the managers did not want to leave when I sent them packing; but they did leave.




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Returntosender

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You do have the option to see your own doctor but may be directed to see the company doctor as well.
See the company doctor first right after see your own. If two different diagnosis, if enough misdiagnosis was done by company doctor file a complaint with medical board. Company doctor will drop UPS before he/she loses the medical license. Or like the devil hearer on the sort says. Take his saved grievance money and retain a attorney and bring the attorney with him to the company doctor, for the diagnosis.
 

Returntosender

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I have personally witnessed management pressuring the doctor to shorten the time the injured employee is to be restricted from full duty while the injured employee is waiting in the examination room. I have also heard from several injured employees who said their manager pressured them to ask the doctor to rewrite their restrictions so the center does not take a DART injury. I tell the supervisors / managers to leave the premises and they do so. I remember reading that they do not have the right to remain at the doctors office if you tell them to leave. It is possible this is a State law or perhaps a panel decision. I will try to locate where I read this. But I know the managers did not want to leave when I sent them packing; but they did leave.




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Go on Amazon buy those hidden camera belt buckle or hat and record that chit. Give it to media wait Atanta fire that manager/supervisor.
 

tacken

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Lets see here UPS doctor will get you back to work as fast as they can. Get in your file if you are hurt you want to see your own doctor.
 

Mugarolla

Light 'em up!
Yes they may. In my local....we have the right to go to the dr of our choosing....but management will insist that we have to see their doctor.
Correct. You can see your own doctor, but UPS has the right to send you to their doctor, once your doctor releases you to go back to work, to verify that you are capable of returning to work.

Hence the third doctor clause in the contract in case the two disagree.

The good part about seeing their doctor instead of yours is that there is no paperwork to complete. It is all taken care of.

If you see your doctor, you need to make sure the paperwork is done.

I have been to their doctor multiple times for work injuries and have never been released to return to work until I knew I was ready.

Their doctor tried to send me back to work after 2 weeks of a severly sprained ankle. I told the Dr. that sure, the swelling is gone and it is not purple anymore, but it is still tender and I am still limping on it.

Told him that if I re-injure it, my attorney will not be visiting UPS, he will be visiting you.

Dr. Told me to take another week off and see him the following Momday for a re-evaluation.

Imagine that!
 

PiedmontSteward

RTW-4-Less
Not necessarily so but it does help.

I was having issues with loss of sensation in the tips of my fingers---turns out the nerves in my elbows were pinched. Surgery to move the nerve has helped quite a bit and, yes, it was covered by comp, even though there was no specific injury date or place.

You also live in NY State, which has much more progressive worker's compensation laws than many other states.

"Repetitive Use" injuries are often denied/fought in my area unless they're linked/triggered by a specific work-action, ie. lifting a box, breaking a jam, etc.
 

PiedmontSteward

RTW-4-Less
I hurt my shoulder at some point on Friday. I hoped it would get better over the weekend but it's def. gotten worse.

I told the closing sup(s) but it was after 2100 so I didn't go much into detail.

What's the proper procedure here? Call in tomorrow or go up there and notify them of the injury?

I assume if I go in they'll blow it off and want me to work.

The procedure is to report it as soon as it happens and to file an injury report (in writing, with your own copy) as soon as possible. Afterwards, the company books an appointment with their doctor and you get put on the Liberty Mutual leash.

Otherwise, UPS management will often try to accuse you of worker's compensation fraud.
 
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