Left in Building

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by undies, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. undies

    undies Active Member

    So last night we had a bunch of drivers bring stops in that they couldn't get off before the 14 hour rule. Management was scanning these packages as well as misloads as Left in Building with a wrist scanner. This feels so wrong and is a clear integrity issue for me. My misloads were not left in building, they were in my truck all day and was unable to make service, hence they should have been missed. What can I do?
  2. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Call the ethics hotline, and report it.
    Could be that your management team is doing the correct thing, but it does sound fishy. Report it, and let the company figure it out.
  3. nate4027

    nate4027 New Member

    What is the number to this ethics hotline? Also make note of what happend and next time your center has local grievance hearings be sure and mention it and see what they have to say for themselves.
  4. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

    File a grievance. That's still union work. You can work over 14 hours. You just have to be off 10 hours after the fact.
  5. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    It's called the "Help Line" now. Should be posters in your building. It is a confidential number, and we can't have it posted on BC.
  6. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    An 800 number available to all employees which allows confidentially reported concerns can't be posted on BC? Technically it's no different than 800 Pick UPS.
  7. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    How the hell can you guys work 14 hours and still not finish. I haven't been on the clock 10 hours yet this peak. You either have incredible volume or piss poor planning.
  8. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    LIB is a Missed package ...why do you care?
  9. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    Yeah, the customer and their package aren't important whatsoever. Let pkgs ride around for a few more days, then tell 'em there was a train derailment or wx delays, or "left in building. Guess there's a higher built-in allowance numerically , in there. anyway, same song and dance to avoid responsibility.
  10. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    I scan mine as "missed" before I return to the building at night. That way, I was honest and if they want to go in and edit or change anything its on them and not me.
  11. upsman68

    upsman68 Active Member

    It's both at our building
  12. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Sounds like more "OPTIMAL" decisions, eh HOAX?


  13. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Read the poster. It says right on it that it's not for the public. As a Moderator, I have to protect this site from anyone's confidentiality issues (and believe me, UPS has issues!).

    If the OP is a real UPSer, he can find the number himself.
  14. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Although I agree that it wouldn't make much of a difference to the customer tracking the package, why record it falsely?
    The packages were not left in the building.

    Shouldn't we care if our management team might be doing things unethically? Aren't we supposed to report unethical behavior?

    Once again I'm not saying it is unethical, but the proper thing to do would be to report your suspicions and let UPS decide if the procedure is correct or not.
  15. undies

    undies Active Member

    I talked to my steward about it, he said they will just say it was a "business decision" and that'll be the end of it. Also talked to my manager about it, they didn't like me asking questions about it, but they said it was because the building was shut down this past Friday and some volume got left behind. Oh well, integrity is lost but I don't want to turn into the "I don't give a damn about anything" driver.
  16. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member


    Sorry to answer you in the same post as TOS (hope this does not hurt our relationship).

    I don't disagree but if I were a driver, I would have better things to do with my time and be concerned with.
    It does not impact me so I would be off doing things to better myself or that I enjoy.
    Where the f*** is my camera?
  17. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    We were always told that the information about the pkg is almost as important as the pkg itself. If we were honest with our customers, it would be recorded as driver went out with too much work, couldn't finish, you just happened to be on the tail end of his route, you get screwed.
  18. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    Sorry ma'am, I had had too many stops yesterday, couldn't get to your house in under 14 hours. Maybe tomorrow I'll make it happen.
  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I ran off 2 LIB's on the way home last night. OMS added 15 minutes to my time card.
  20. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Unfortunately, there is no code for that on which queries can be run for tracking and trending analysis by some geek sitting in a cube in Corporate IE.