wilberforce15
Well-Known Member
So what? They use us for gain. I use them for gain. Welcome to the world.
Half the time, I don't even know what a company does when I trade it.
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Half the time, I don't even know what a company does when I trade it.
Whither
Scofflaw
Just pointing out, your high and mighty critique of 'boomerism' -- which is an absurd marketing generalization, like all the other "generation" labels -- has its limits. We're all involved in the decline of wages and working conditions, it's true. But the major part of this can be attributed to companies' endless thirst for capital and all the gov't legislation that's licensed it.
wilberforce15
Well-Known Member
Boomerism is real, and they created the world you're so upset about.
PT Car Washer
Banned
I disagree. A bricklayer is a skilled building trade.
wilberforce15
Well-Known Member
Thanks. I'm trying to be generous to the steering wheel holders.
oldngray
nowhere special
Whither
Scofflaw
Ah yes, boomers are responsible for plundering the Americas and for the Industrial Revolution -- how could I have forgotten?
I notice you didn't say a word re: corporate interests in stagnant wages/declining work conditions and the government's endorsement of it.
Brown Wing
Sandbagger
Go try and pull a route and then call it unskilled labor. There's a reason it takes a lot of people the 30 days qualifying and then some to get it down. I don't disagree with some of what you're trying to say. But you are totally ignorant of what a driver does on a daily basis.
wilberforce15
Well-Known Member
Already have. I see no reason that my driving work should've paid more than preload work.
I understand that people want to feel important and special. But delivering packages just isn't either one of those things.
wilberforce15
Well-Known Member
You think settling America and the industrial revolution brought poverty? Lol. Hopeless.
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Scofflaw
No, my friend, what's hopeless is your myopic view of history. Do you know what working conditions and wages were like during the Industrial Revolution? My point is, the "golden age" for labor -- the one you think "boomers" ruined -- was a brief exception that proves the rule. Under our beloved economic system, companies are driven to extract as much productivity from workers while paying them as little as they can get away with.
Brown Wing
Sandbagger
If you say so. Yes preloaders, and all part timers should be around 25 an hour. But to say driving shouldn't pay more is objectively stupid. And speak for yourself buddy. So special that you have to come here and let everyone know how good you have it while just being a lowly preloader. Allegedly.
wilberforce15
Well-Known Member
Why didn't driving pay more a long time ago? What's so special now?
What happened is The Locust Generation started driving.
I would think most PT's would care less about $25/hr as getting same benefits as FT do (Med, dental, vision). Maybe I'm just ignorant but based on how out of control health care costs have become I would think covering yourself/family under a better medical plan would be better than hourly wage.... at least that's the feeling I get from most PT's in my center.
PT Car Washer
Banned
True for those with a family. Most of the new hires are young and healthy and have no use for health insurance. Or so they think.
Young people are invincible.
A long time ago drivers were loading their own trucks.
wilberforce15
Well-Known Member
Yep.
So that means what exactly?
They loaded and drove, and they got the same pay for both. And across the union payscales, equality reigned.
Then the Locusts started gobbling.
wilberforce15
Well-Known Member
They're all on parents insurance, or already get free care on medicaid.
The benefits mean nothing to most PT.
Give them money.
PT Car Washer
Banned
A long time ago Preloaders made $.50/hr less then delivery drivers.
