LU 177 "selective" Seniority.

[hondo]

We have 4 centers in our building. Each center has its own list. Then there is feeders list also. I can't bid a route in another center. If I go to feeder I go to the bottom of the list. PT no matter how many years they have also goes to the bottom of the list.

We also bid a route and keep it till someone else retires or we wanna give it up.

Almost exactly like it's done here, except when it comes to vacations: those are bid by FT senority, regardless of your classification seniority date.

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

Were you there?

No I have a friend in feeders in local 177

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

1. Half the room was not clapping or cheering when people voiced out against changing the seniority language. The members that want this changed might not have been loud out the meeting but you don't have to be loud to put in a vote.. Also you can't put no more the 200 members in meeting hall. There are 450 (and counting) members that will vote yes to this................ 2. A majority of members will put in proposals to have the seniority language changed were a employee transfers from one classification to another will carry over their full time company seniority. Then it will be addressed by the BAs and then if the BAs see this is what the majority still wants then it get's put in contract negotiations. Then it will pass.

Ok I just looked at the lm2 from your local and you said that 450 people are yes for the seniority change but there is 1 problem your local has almost 9000 members

 

[East coast navy]

Keep dreaming. Like I said before i'm not in your local so you really don't know anything about what goes on here.

Both systems are so incredibly stupid I don't even know how to respond.

lol!

 

[East coast navy]

Ok I just looked at the lm2 from your local and you said that 450 people are yes for the seniority change but there is 1 problem your local has almost 9000 members

1. We have 3500ish Ft and 4000ish Pt........ 2. We only had 800ish proposals................ 3. 988 voted yes and 143 voted no to a pension raise last contract....................... No one votes in this local!

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

1. We have 3500ish Ft and 4000ish Pt........ 2. We only had 800ish proposals................ 3. 988 voted yes and 143 voted no to a pension raise last contract....................... No one votes in this local!

So what's the proposal in detail

 

[Wally]

Why stop there? Why not have full vacation seniority? Allow senior seniority the right to take all their vacation whenever they want. Take all the summer weeks for example.

 

[East coast navy]

Why stop there? Why not have full vacation seniority? Allow senior seniority the right to take all their vacation whenever they want. Take all the summer weeks for example.

Go a head and put that in a proposal.

 

[upschuck]

Why stop there? Why not have full vacation seniority? Allow senior seniority the right to take all their vacation whenever they want. Take all the summer weeks for example.

That is what we got now. Everyone picks their full complement of vacations at one time. Top guys get them until the weeks are closed out. Not really a big deal.

 

[oldupsman]

Why stop there? Why not have full vacation seniority? Allow senior seniority the right to take all their vacation whenever they want. Take all the summer weeks for example.

Well. that's exactly what we have. And nobody has a problem with it. It's called SENIORITY!!

 

[Wally]

Well. that's exactly what we have. And nobody has a problem with it. It's called SENIORITY!!

So, you dont have to take winter weeks? You can use everything July-Aug if you wanted?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That is what we got now. Everyone picks their full complement of vacations at one time. Top guys get them until the weeks are closed out. Not really a big deal.

Same here.

 

[upschuck]

So, you dont have to take winter weeks? You can use everything July-Aug if you wanted?

Yep

 

[Wally]

Yep

5 in a row would be awesome.

 

[oldupsman]

So, you dont have to take winter weeks? You can use everything July-Aug if you wanted?

Of course. Why shouldn't a guy at the top of the seniority list take his vacation whenever he wants. Now if you were a nice
guy like me at the top of the list you would think about your fellow drivers and take only say 4 of your 6 weeks during
the summer. I always used one over the Christmas holiday and I always used one in the spring.

5 in a row would be awesome.

Try coming back to this job after 5 weeks off. It's not easy to do.

 

[East coast navy]

So what's the proposal in detail

Come to a meet and you will see..

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

Come to a meet and you will see..

Is it top secret? Why can't you tell me now?

 

[East coast navy]

Lol! You carry over your seniority when you transfer. Not much to it. Just asking to keep the bidding language the same. That's about it.

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

Lol! You carry over your seniority when you transfer. Not much to it. Just asking to keep the bidding language the same. That's about it.

Are pters dovetailing in

 

[East coast navy]

Are pters dovetailing in

Are you in package?