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[bbsam]

Nobody is coming to save you but yourself.

And nobody came to save Randy Weaver’s family. It was him against the federal government. He lost.

 

[sailfish]

When did I say people should give up their guns? I have no intention of giving up mine.

I’m not at all against gun control. It should just be smart and the people passing such legislation and the people electing those people should understand what they’re talking about.

 

[bbsam]

His family deserved to be murdered because he was baited into cutting the barrel off a shotgun by a glowie?

Maybe he could have argued that in court.

 

[sailfish]

And nobody came to save Randy Weaver’s family. It was him against the federal government. He lost.

Point is, "good guy with a gun" is a strawman I see used entirely more by gun opposition to mock than unironically by gun proponents.

 

[bbsam]

@sailfish you seem very confused today.

 

[sailfish]

@sailfish you seem very confused today.

Not at all.

 

[bbsam]

Point is, "good guy with a gun" is a strawman I see used entirely more by gun opposition to mock than unironically by gun proponents.

That’s because it’s something that folks like Wayne LaPierre alway liked to spout off about but the actual occurrences are far fewer than the gun industry would like to admit.

 

[bbsam]

Not at all.

You quoted me in somehow suggesting that people should give up their guns. The quote you used said nothing of the sort.

 

[oldngray]

That’s because it’s something that folks like Wayne LaPierre alway liked to spout off about but the actual occurrences are far fewer than the gun industry would like to admit.

Almost as if the media under reports how often it happens.

 

[sailfish]

You quoted me in somehow suggesting that people should give up their guns. The quote you used said nothing of the sort.

Supporting gun control legislation is just that.

 

[bbsam]

Almost as if the media under reports how often it happens.

That’s possible. But it wouldn’t be that hard for the NRA and gun industry to compile that data with specifics and get it out there. There is plenty of conservative media to get that ball rolling.

 

[bbsam]

Supporting gun control legislation is just that.

Sorry. I haven’t seen any gun legislation that says that. And I live in Illinois!

I have seen proposed gun legislation that has had me “panic buying” guns I might not be able to get for a few years.

 

[oldngray]

That’s possible. But it wouldn’t be that hard for the NRA and gun industry to compile that data with specifics and get it out there. There is plenty of conservative media to get that ball rolling.

I will wait for CNN to report how many times guns were successfully used as a deterrent without needing to fire a shot.

 

[sailfish]

I have seen proposed gun legislation that has had me “panic buying” guns I might not be able to get for a few years.

Why would proposed legislation cause you to panic buy?

 

[bbsam]

Why would proposed legislation cause you to panic buy?

Because Illinois has the votes to ban ARs and AKs and seem to be determined to do so. I’d like to have them before waiting for the Supreme Court to rule against them.

 

[bbsam]

I will wait for CNN to report how many times guns were successfully used as a deterrent without needing to fire a shot.

Why? If the data exists, why not get that competing narrative out there?

You don’t trust CNN to do it anyway. Makes me wonder if the data to back up your assertion really exists.

 

[sailfish]

Because Illinois has the votes to ban ARs and AKs and seem to be determined to do so. I’d like to have them before waiting for the Supreme Court to rule against them.

So gun control legislation would cause people to have to give up being able to legally obtain these guns. Carry on.

 

[Lineandinitial]

Because Illinois has the votes to ban ARs and AKs and seem to be determined to do so. I’d like to have them before waiting for the Supreme Court to rule against them.

Those things you are allowed to buy are neither AR’s or AK’s.
They’re sporting rifles that look like the real thing.
You wanna shot a real one, get an SOT or join the military.

 

[bbsam]

So gun control legislation would cause people to have to give up being able to legally obtain these guns. Carry on.

Yes. So explain to me how that means I’m going to have to give them up.

 

[oldngray]

Why do states insist on passing laws they know will get declared unconstitutional?

After The Supreme Court’s Major Gun Decision, These States Passed Restrictive New Laws In 2022

Gun laws in New York, California, New Jersey, Oregon and Texas were all ruled unconstitutional in 2022, and many laws continue to be debated in the courts.

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