Medicare for All Price-tag 32.6 Trillion!

It will be fine

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Welcome to the resistance Koch brothers.

Koch-Backed Think Tank Finds That “Medicare for All” Would Cut Health Care Spending and Raise Wages. Whoops.

“Medicare for All” would cover more people, increase the quality of coverage, and cost less than is currently being spent on health care. “Blahous admits that covering the uninsured and upgrading coverage for most others could be achieved at virtually no additional cost through a single payer reform,” Himmelstein and Woolhandler conclude.”Altogether, the increase in federal health spending is dramatic and certainly significant, but the change in projected national health expenditures really isn’t,” he told The Intercept. Especially given the source of the report, that’s news.

It’ll save us money, cover everyone and allow workers to be able to easily switch employers raising wages.
 

El Correcto

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It’ll save us money, cover everyone and allow workers to be able to easily switch employers raising wages.
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It will be fine

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Did you read the last part of that article? That doubling current income and corporate taxes wouldn't quite cover the total expense? No thanks! Wally is right, it'll kill the economy.
Are you intentionally not understanding the savings or just ignoring them? No premiums, no deductibles, no co-pays, no crazy drug costs. M4A ends up cheaper with more people covered, it’s just math. I’d take doubled income tax over my current premiums and deductibles any day. That would save me thousands.
 

It will be fine

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If you have to wait many months to have a procedure done it's rationed. If they can get you in Thursday next week it isn't.
What length of wait time equals “rationing” to you? A week and a half is not rationed but a month is? Doesn’t sound like you understand the term rationing.
 

vantexan

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What length of wait time equals “rationing” to you? A week and a half is not rationed but a month is? Doesn’t sound like you understand the term rationing.
Big difference between a week and a half and many months. In England people often wait 6 months or longer for needed procedures.
 

vantexan

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Are you intentionally not understanding the savings or just ignoring them? No premiums, no deductibles, no co-pays, no crazy drug costs. M4A ends up cheaper with more people covered, it’s just math. I’d take doubled income tax over my current premiums and deductibles any day. That would save me thousands.
You're stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. Did you not read that for many the more than doubling of their taxes, and that includes more than doubling corporate taxes too, would be considerably higher than the premiums they pay. And if corporate taxes end up higher than where they were before the tax cut then you can forget about higher wages. Are you intentionally misleading people?
 

Plum's

As luck would have it
Originally Catholic hospital model. The nuns took care of you and at the end of the stay you had an appointment with the Chief Physician.
 

El Correcto

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Are you intentionally not understanding the savings or just ignoring them? No premiums, no deductibles, no co-pays, no crazy drug costs. M4A ends up cheaper with more people covered, it’s just math. I’d take doubled income tax over my current premiums and deductibles any day. That would save me thousands.
Wouldnt save me *
 

El Correcto

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You're stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. Did you not read that for many the more than doubling of their taxes, and that includes more than doubling corporate taxes too, would be considerably higher than the premiums they pay. And if corporate taxes end up higher than where they were before the tax cut then you can forget about higher wages. Are you intentionally misleading people?
That’s why we need the government to hire everyone, guaranteed liveable wages digging ditches and processing orders for said ditches.

The ditches will be used as mass graves for the people who oppose the government.

“Socialism” is wonderful comrade.
 

retiredTxfeeder

cap'n crunch
I went to my family doctor for a checkup 2 weeks ago, and she told me in the very near future (didn't have an exact date) Her practice would no longer accept medicare, and it is the wave of the future. I didn't ask her what reason for the decision, but I'd imagine low pay or maybe reems of paperwork. What good is medicare going to be if nobody accepts it as payment? And can you imagine the wait time of the few doctors that do accept it?
 
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