MrFedEx's Nightmare

[wkmac]

There’s a silent revolution happening on campuses across the world. Libertarian activism is on the rise. Political figures like Ron Paul have started to draw huge support from younger voters, but the trend seems to be much deeper and more sustained than any single political campaign. Rather than simply throwing support behind individuals and politicians, students are rallying around distinctly pro-liberty ideas and ideologies. The US has been at the forefront of this change. Even discounting Ron Paul drawing huge crowds to his rallies, purely ideas-based organisations like Students for Liberty have grown rapidly. Its International Conference attracted over 1000 students this February, and while this might not yet compare with some socialist and conservative rallies or conferences, the most astonishing thing is that just four years ago that same conference attracted only 100 people. A tenfold increase should be cause for interest, and the first four-figure libertarian student conference in the world, without any of the politics or rallying around a central figure is unprecedented.
Groups like Students for Liberty have even become confident enough to set up activism infrastructure in Europe too, with the very first European conference last year attracting over 200 people from 25 countries. Generally considered more socialist, with large welfare states and the continuation of radical socialist politics on its campuses, many would have said Europe was a highly improbable place for libertarian ideas to be so popular.

Where Are All the Libertarians Coming From?

And The Nightmare Gets Even Better!

But MFE will have to share his crying towel with the GOPers on this one!

Crush the Bastards
Jullian Assange

How many of these new libertarain minds will begin to take libertarianism to it's ultimate conclusions and the means of getting there?

 

[Jones]

Oh dear god, no!

 

[wkmac]

Oh dear god, no!

Good one!

 

[MrFedEx]

Where Are All the Libertarians Coming From?

And The Nightmare Gets Even Better!

But MFE will have to share his crying towel with the GOPers on this one!



How many of these new libertarain minds will begin to take libertarianism to it's ultimate conclusions and the means of getting there?

Libertarianism IS a nightmare, but your numbers are so low that there isn't any real threat to sanity...yet. If Ron Paul has so much support, why has he been a dismal failure in the primaries? If you insert Rand Paul into the equation, he's so crazy that most people see that the fruit hasn't fallen far from the tree, and that it is also rotten.

The "ultimate conclusion" of Libertarianism is implosion, as more and more people realize how irrelevant and unworkable the philosophy really is. It belongs in a giant bubble on the moon, where you can all snuff each other out in an all-out battle of "personal responsibility" and unrestricted freedom. Then we won't have to listen to the crazies any more.

 

[Jones]

If "Libertarianism" ever actually grows to the point where it's a political player, I suspect it will co-opted in the same manner that the tea party was. Note how the Koch brothers are already working on gaining full control of Cato.

 

[wkmac]

If "Libertarianism" ever actually grows to the point where it's a political player, I suspect it will co-opted in the same manner that the tea party was. Note how the Koch brothers are already working on gaining full control of Cato.

True but then if it follows to it's conclusions by de-centralizing and thus de-powers centers of political powers, it becomes a bit more problematic to co-opt said power. The Koch's have mostly owned Cato since day one, google Kochtopus for that history, but the growing trends in libertarianism as opposed to Libertarianism and Ron Paul not withstanding, is away from political libertarianism which keeps power centered and towards philosophical libertarianism which disdains political power over people and markets. This is what has the Koch's and other partyarchs scared and out to control to keep the 2 party statism together so they can maintain heirarchy and ownership and thus their own state privilege upon which their own wealth is built. They are in truth statists of the first order.

The great debate is which one will prevail and thus your point valid in that political perspective following a purely political outcome of party politics is maintained. Following the argument that the Koch's and corp. capitalism like libertarianism, I ask the question, where is all those big bucks at in the Ron Paul campaign? Being those dollars are in fact in the other candidates and Obama's campaign coffers, the very "Libertarianism" that MFE squawks and bleats about, seems that form of "Libertarianism" is actually backing his guy and the other republican sock puppet wanna-bees!

Speaks Volumes!

 

[bbsam]

Hey, I have an idea. Let's look back in history and see what happened to all the puritans of ideology in the sixties? You remember the ones, always talking about peace and love and stuff? They graduated college and became...how shall we say...assimilated. They became the upper middle class CEOs and movers and shakers of the eighties and nineties. Now, what makes you think this brand of ideology will remain any more pure once the reality of the borg begins to grind it down into the pragmatism of struggling through daily life?

 

[av8torntn]

Hey, I have an idea. Let's look back in history and see what happened to all the puritans of ideology in the sixties? You remember the ones, always talking about peace and love and stuff? They graduated college and became...how shall we say...assimilated. They became the upper middle class CEOs and movers and shakers of the eighties and nineties. Now, what makes you think this brand of ideology will remain any more pure once the reality of the borg begins to grind it down into the pragmatism of struggling through daily life?

But for years all we've heard is that Ron Paul(a self proclaimed libertarian) is so bad because he does not compromise. He has been in the collective for a very long time.

 

[bbsam]

Hard not to compromise as king.