olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
don't know who you are responding to ( probably on ignore ) but from experience you are usually right.Like me... or, not.
I'm right and you are wrong.
My center manager changed my start time to make me look late
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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While this language is correct it is not what is being discussed here.
Start times are not set in stone and are adjusted as needed. 24 hours notice is required for start time changes of 1 hour or less while 72 hours notice is required for those changes of more than an hour so, yes, they can tell you at this morning's PCM (or via a notice taped to the DIAD charging rack) that tomorrow's start time has been changed.
542thruNthru
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No later than 9? Never heard that before. They changed all out start times to 9:30am this week in my center with a nice little note on the start times. "If preload is done early you may start early". So idiots are showing up at 845am and standing around hoping to start early.
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Maybe where you were. In the Western start times are posted on Friday the week before and can not be changed. If you are forced to start early they must pay you OT.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Just prior to retiring we were at 9 on Mondays and 9:30 the rest of the week. At that point we had not started Saturday ground. There were numerous instances where they would tell us on Tuesday that we would either be starting earlier or later on Wednesday.
Other than for hazmat or other required training which dictated that we start early, we were never "forced" to start early. There were days when the preload was wrapped that we were "allowed" to start early.
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
The same applies if we are forced to start later. They would have to pay us OT for the amount of time difference.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Now, I am really scratching my head.
I always assumed you were in the Central....
But, you're not ?
sandwich
The resident gearhead
I just found the language. It’s up here in the jc 28 rider. Not western region. My bad.
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Thats nice language though. Wish we had it.
sandwich
The resident gearhead
We also have overtime after 6pm regardless of when you punch in. For rpcd
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Wut?
sandwich
The resident gearhead
Yup.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
So using your "logic" I could punch in at 1759 and get OT for the rest of my shift.
sandwich
The resident gearhead
That’s correct, refer to section B
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
How do you guys cover late pickups?
What time does your air have to be at the airport?
I worked in a rural center and we had to have the air back by 1930.
What time does your air have to be at the airport?
I worked in a rural center and we had to have the air back by 1930.
sandwich
The resident gearhead
Well, if you started at 9 you would already be on overtime after 8 hours.
any other questions about “my logic”
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
I probably should have said..."ours, for one"
sandwich
The resident gearhead
I don’t think you are understanding the purpose of that language.
not only do we have defined start time language, we have defined overtime language to keep the company from imposing late start times.
it’s also an incentive for people who have doctors appointments or whatever to come into work late instead of just calling out for the day.
but like I said. We start at 9am or earlier based on posted start time and receive o.t. After 8 hours regardless of that language. So we’re are already making o.t. Prior to 6pm anyways.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Making you start before your posted start time has no relevance in this thread? They are basically changing your start time, just that they have to pay you time and a half for the early start.
