New driver wreck
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Ashleyrenee44
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The guy said he was ok at first but then mentioned his back hurting. I'm sure he's seeing $$ right now.
Ashleyrenee44
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Working termination?
Shiftless
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The real question is, will you learn from this event?
Yes. you are technically fired but still working until your grievance meeting
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Same most places. Contract says you could be off for 30 days, unless they go for a permanent discharge.
Nothing to do with a weak local.
It is contractual language in the Master, and the Company uses it all the time and in all locals.
The Master specifies what a serious accident is, in which a driver can be removed from the payroll.
Could be from a few days to a few months. Nobody can say for sure.
You should be back, eventually.
UPSNMA
Article 18
Section 3
In the event of a vehicle accident, the Employer shall have twenty (20) days to complete its investigation, if warranted, and ten (10) days to take disciplinary action, if any, unless otherwise mutually agreed. Except for serious accidents, where the driver may be presumed to be at fault, a driver will not be removed from the payroll during an investigation of the accident.
A serious accident is defined as one in which: 1. There is a fatality, or;
2. A citation is issued and there is bodily injury to a person who, as a result of the injury, receives immediate medical treatment away from the scene of the accident, or;
3. A citation is issued and one or more motor vehicles incur disabling damage as a result of the accident requiring a vehicle to be transported away from the scene by a tow truck or other vehicle, or;
4. Any vehicular contact with an aircraft which results in damage that grounds such aircraft, or;
5. There is an accident involving a motor vehicle on Company property, outside of any building, that results in a fatality or bodily
542thruNthru
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Yes I understand that. That's why I said a serious accident. Again the term Tier 3 is the company's term. I can have a small little fender bender in a intersection and it's a Tier 3 or hit someone in the rear.
When he said you're fired for a Tier 3 automatically that is not right and if true then it's a weak local.
Fbeo we k cjfowncn
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Oh hey we heard about this accident this morning
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Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
I don't care about their Tier classification either, and I did not reference the supposed Tier 3.
The OP stated the car was pretty messed up, so I assumed it was towed.
According to the Contract, this is classified as a serious accident where the driver is presumed to be at fault, and the Union agreed to this.
The Company can take you out of service, without pay, and no chance of backpay, unless it was determined to not be your fault, for up to 30 days.
And being a rookie doesn't help
File for unemployment tomorrow
542thruNthru
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Ok well I responding to barnyard not OP and when you quoted me I misunderstood.
Read the freaking post next time
Fbeo we k cjfowncn
Active Member
He'll be back after they let him sweat for a bit
Perhaps
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Had a female air driver break the rules twice in one week. Saw a woman fall off of her bike and put her & the bike into her P 300 and drive her home ( outside of our area ) and then the next day rear end a car, extremely little damage. She was banned from driving again and given my inside job, while I was forced to do her driving { my pay rate was not changed, my inside rate was higher } It was a work as directed thing. She always played the poor single woman with a growing child routine.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Having an unauthorized passenger is a cardinal sin, is it not?
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
You ran a yellow light and then ran into the back of a car
Did you forget about this part
Brand new driver. Strong chance of losing at panel.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
I don't know if their Tier classification system takes into account injuries, vehicles being towed or dollar amounts.
I don't know if a minor fender bender in an intersection is a Tier 3 regardless of how small, and personally, I don't care.
If you were to have a fender bender, where there were no injuries and no vehicles towed, whether in an intersection or not, how can they discharge you if it does not meet the threshold of a serious accident in the NMUPSA?
They can't.
It is possible that to be a Tier 3, there needs to be injuries or vehicles towed, I don't know.
But the OP was removed from service, discharged, because it was a serious accident defined in Article 18 Section 3 of the NMUPSA, not because it was a Tier 3.
But the 2 definitions are probably one in the same.
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