new feeder drivers

705 cach

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We have seasonal feeder drivers that came from package car centers all over North ILL. These drivers get to go back on December 24 to their home centers .To maybe get a callback to feeder in late January. if the volume stays and if ups honors the lost subcontracting rule [brokers have been pulling loads from CSX/ conrail 63 to 6012/ Hodkins when the work was to go to 705 teamsters] since peak of 2005. Cach is to put on about 20 to 30 more driver, Have u heard some thing to this effect?
 
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Anonymous GearJammer

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Maybe they're bring them in to cover all the four day work weeks, so they don't have to cancel the fifth days run, screwing the meet drivers. Not sure why the company creates jobs that are so lopsided that one driver is pushing the max driving hour rule while the other driver can make two trips and still have hours to spare.
 

local804

Well-Known Member
Maybe they're bring them in to cover all the four day work weeks, so they don't have to cancel the fifth days run, screwing the meet drivers. Not sure why the company creates jobs that are so lopsided that one driver is pushing the max driving hour rule while the other driver can make two trips and still have hours to spare.

Very good point, UPS really seems to amaze me.
 

raceanoncr

Well-Known Member
My former meet guy, out of Cach, hasn't even met full progression yet and he's had a bid run for the last 6 mos. He said he's got about 60 new ones under him already. He now has bid mileage run.

I got 29 yrs + and just now got mileage run.

My new meet guy (also out of Cach) says they're gonna hire about 60 more 710 drivers. He just met progression about two mos ago and has bid run.

Any questions?
 

babboo25

Well-Known Member
I am a package car driver in local 710 in Southern IL, How do find out about these feeder runs? Nothing has been posted in our building.
 

RockyRogue

Agent of Change
I am a package car driver in local 710 in Southern IL, How do find out about these feeder runs? Nothing has been posted in our building.

My understanding is you're not eligible for these bids, hence the reason why they haven't been posted. I went to school in Southern Illinois. Its a looooong f'ing haul to the CACH hub! -Rocky
 

raceanoncr

Well-Known Member
I am a package car driver in local 710 in Southern IL, How do find out about these feeder runs? Nothing has been posted in our building.


As with most of country, bids will only be posted in building that it applies to, in this case, probably just CACH. Notice, I said MOST of country. Some parts will be different. So don't take this as law.
 

705red

Browncafe Steward
I am a package car driver in local 710 in Southern IL, How do find out about these feeder runs? Nothing has been posted in our building.
See what your contract says. Here (705) we are allowed to put our name on a feeder seniority list across 705's coverage area. We can choose what buildings we are interested in going to and which buildings we do not want.

Talking with some 710 friends they can only bid into feeder work in their own building which needs to be changed. This is why so many 710 drivers get hired off of the street. At cach there are no package car jobs and all of the inside work belongs to 705. This is a reason we complained about 710 doing our work, there is no reason why someone of the street should be doing our work while we have current teamsters wiling to move up and do this work.

I believe that ups will be keeping these seasonal feeder drivers at cach, there is an agreement to put on roughly 34 new (705) feeder drivers asap at cach over the 63rd street rails.
 
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Anonymous GearJammer

Guest
Meet one of those drivers that took advantage of that opportunity, said it was the best decision he ever made.
 

RockyRogue

Agent of Change
Talking with some 710 friends they can only bid into feeder work in their own building which needs to be changed.

I'm going to jump into something, even though I'll probably regret doing so. In any event, I think this policy should be left alone!!! Because 710 covers a land area that is far larger than Chicago, making this policy universal isn't a good idea. I think you have to look at it from a practical point of view, particularly the distance from these southern Illinois barns. For example, Champaign-Urbana is a 710 barn. Its a little over 2 hours--each way--to the CACH hub!!! Uh-uh. If the company will cover relocation costs (I doubt it), that's a different story entirely. Until then....I say leave the policy alone! -Rocky
 
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705red

Browncafe Steward
I'm going to jump into something, even though I'll probably regret doing so. In any event, I think this policy should be left alone!!! Because 710 covers a land area that is far larger than Chicago, making this policy universal isn't a good idea. I think you have to look at it from a practical point of view, particularly the distance from these southern Illinois barns. For example, Champaign-Urbana is a 710 barn. Its a little over 2 hours--each way--to the CACH hub!!! Uh-uh. If the company will cover relocation costs (I doubt it), that's a different story entirely. Until then....I say leave the policy alone! -Rocky
Heres the problem, in 710 you have barns that have no feeder jobs, which means that package drivers have no chance of going feeder. Now before they hire off the street for these jobs they should give these seniority employees the choice. In 705 we have people who have made choices to go feeder at cach from package in waukegan, now its upto them to relocate or make the drive, but it is the employees choice.
 

local804

Well-Known Member
Several years ago they allowed 705 drivers to transfer over to 710. There were those of us that considered it,myself included,but the drivers transferring over would go to the bottom of the seniority list instead of dovetailing in. That killed it for most except the lower seniority 705 drivers who didn`t have much to lose.

Id rather see another Teamsters doing the work than management or sub-contractors any day of the week.
 

RockyRogue

Agent of Change
Heres the problem, in 710 you have barns that have no feeder jobs, which means that package drivers have no chance of going feeder. Now before they hire off the street for these jobs they should give these seniority employees the choice. In 705 we have people who have made choices to go feeder at cach from package in waukegan, now its upto them to relocate or make the drive, but it is the employees choice.

I see your point, Red. I don't disagree--in theory. But, once again, you're talking about a much further drive for these Southern Illinois 710 employees. If UPS will pay the relocation costs, you'd take all the wind out of my sails. Since that probaby won't happen, I think changing this policy is a bad idea. Put yourself into a 710 employees' shoes. Would you like to drive from Champaign-Urbana to Hodgkins and back five days a week???? I've made that trip a dozen plus times. Its no fun! -Rocky
 

loserupser

Two minute Therapist
Was up crew,
Im one of the seasonal drivers at CACH. We were told we were seasonal, but we were not told of a return date, its a play it by ear thing. I seriously doubt that we will go back, there are too many new seasonal drivers and and they are training thru peak, and probaly continue after peak. It does not make sense to keep training and send us back after peak. The bad thing is we will have to go through two probationary periods. I hear the rumors of going back to package after the 22nd, but nothing from management. In fact I was told about the double probation period.
 

RockyRogue

Agent of Change
How far of a drive is it Rocky?

Champaign-Urbana to the CACH hub? I MapQuested the distance and it came up as 130 miles from Champaign to the UPS address (One UPS Way Hodgkins, IL). The driving time was 2 hours, 12 minutes. There's a more precise distance if anyone has a Champaign address. I don't know the address of the UPS facility at Champaign. Local, I'm really not trying to jump you over the Internet but would you want to make that drive five days a week??? And another question: would you want to move your family 150 miles if you had to pay for it??? I wouldn't do either of those!!! -Rocky
 

local804

Well-Known Member
No I would not....
We have feeder drivers driving approx 60-80 miles to get to thier assigned centers and I thought that was bad. If you remember a while ago, there was a UPS driver that died on the side of the road parked, resting on his way home from work? That was one of our feeder drivers. He had an hour ride home which was sad but 2 hours is fn pathetic!
 

705red

Browncafe Steward
I see your point, Red. I don't disagree--in theory. But, once again, you're talking about a much further drive for these Southern Illinois 710 employees. If UPS will pay the relocation costs, you'd take all the wind out of my sails. Since that probaby won't happen, I think changing this policy is a bad idea. Put yourself into a 710 employees' shoes. Would you like to drive from Champaign-Urbana to Hodgkins and back five days a week???? I've made that trip a dozen plus times. Its no fun! -Rocky

If your body is breaking down and you cant make it another 5 to 10 years to retire at least you have that choice. That would be upto the person but at least they should have a choice before hiring off the street.

Was up crew,
Im one of the seasonal drivers at CACH. We were told we were seasonal, but we were not told of a return date, its a play it by ear thing. I seriously doubt that we will go back, there are too many new seasonal drivers and and they are training thru peak, and probaly continue after peak. It does not make sense to keep training and send us back after peak. The bad thing is we will have to go through two probationary periods. I hear the rumors of going back to package after the 22nd, but nothing from management. In fact I was told about the double probation period.
How are you liking feeder? Once again im no feeder language specialist, but if you do not get laid off at all, your 1st day of work as a seasonal feeder should count towards your 40 in 90 probatinary period. If anyone from feeder could respond to this question, i would appreciate it. i know in package if you get laid off for at least one day you would have to start over, so im assuming its the same in feeder.
 

RockyRogue

Agent of Change
If your body is breaking down and you cant make it another 5 to 10 years to retire at least you have that choice. That would be upto the person but at least they should have a choice before hiring off the street.

I think Local804 made a great point with the fatigue, safety and distance issues. I don't think I have anything further to add to this discussion. -Rocky
 
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