New Social Security bill

[upschuck]

Actually your employer is forced to pay around half.

Welcome to the wonderful world of handouts my friend.

So my paycheck is a handout, too. It is part of your and my total compensation. If you can't see the difference between the two, there is nothing left to be said.

 

[Benben]

That’s the problem, everyone’s worried about where the roulette ball will land. How many more times are they going to increase the age limit for government retirement, how much will it end up costing the workers to properly fund it as people life expectancy increases. You got to keep in mind social security wasn’t originally planned to subsidize someone for 40 years.
The average life expectancy was 61 in 1935, people start collecting at 65. That isn’t the case these days, it needs an increased age limit.
Sounds like you’re a proponent of welfare statism when it comes to getting a handout yourself. Yet you don’t have morales behind it, you don’t believe welfare states are good when they don’t directly benefit you and you still have to pick up the tab. You don’t worry about the example the older generations have embraced, our downward spiral into socialism and collectivism. Which is a destructive ideology, eventually you will run out of other’s money then this financial government bubble and artificial standard of living will pop.

Good lord, someone woke up this morning with a Faux News Johnson in their mouth!

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Sometimes life doesn't give you those choices.

That's a defeatist attitude. Nothing worthwhile is easy. I'm not against helping people who are simply unable to help themselves, I just don't necessarily think government is the best way to run such programs.

I don’t want social security recipients to go without their stolen loot. But voting against any meaningful social security reform and eventually getting rid of it is a huge problem with these people currently on it.

If social security was more like an enforced retirement savings plan and less like a ponzi scheme, I would have fewer issues with it.

 

[Benben]

I'm not against helping people who are simply unable to help themselves,

I find it very difficult to believe you would go out of your way to help any other human being. You just don't strike me as "that kind of guy."

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That's a defeatist attitude. Nothing worthwhile is easy. I'm not against helping people who are simply unable to help themselves, I just don't necessarily think government is the best way to run such programs.



If social security was more like an enforced retirement savings plan and less like a ponzi scheme, I would have fewer issues with it.

You can not always dictate what happens in life

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I find it very difficult to believe you would go out of your way to help any other human being. You just don't strike me as "that kind of guy."

You must have me confused with someone else. I'm usually quite helpful, even on these forums. I only do a little, infrequent, light, good-natured, trolling.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

You can not always dictate what happens in life

Ever hear the saying "when life gives you lemons..."? You almost never can dictate your circumstances, you always can decide how you respond to them. But we're being a little too philisophical, so I will concede the point to you, since I'm not sure what we're disagreeing about.

 

[rod]

No I won’t, even if I take a social security check I would vote against it in a heartbeat.

Just like I’d vote against all massive federal entitlements.

They're so cute when they're young.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Ever hear the saying "when life gives you lemons..."? You almost never can dictate your circumstances, you always can decide how you respond to them. But we're being a little too philisophical, so I will concede the point to you, since I'm not sure what we're disagreeing about.

Not much you can do about a job loss or a serious illness.

You can make all the plans you want bit sometimes you can't plan for everything

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Not much you can do about a job loss or a serious illness.

You can make all the plans you want bit sometimes you can't plan for everything

You can always adjust your expectations. When faced with something like a terminal illness, you stop worrying about the months and the years and start focusing on making the minutes count. Or you stew in self-pity and misery, waiting for the end. A job loss may have a huge impact, and may derail you from your current course, but nothing stopping you from getting back out there. The world is full of endless possibilities.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Not much you can do about a job loss or a serious illness.

You can make all the plans you want bit sometimes you can't plan for everything

I'm all for a program for that.
But that's not really what social security is for most people.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I'm all for a program for that.
But that's not really what social security is for most people.

It's a way for the government to keep the real unemployment numbers down.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Conservatives rant about the founders' intentions, then defend a program that takes 12 percent of people's income.

Hypocrites.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Conservatives rant about the founders intentions, then defend a program that takes 12 percent of people's income.

Hypocrites.

It's another welfare program

 

[cosmo1]

It's another welfare program

Are you going to take it?

 

[vantexan]

Actually your employer is forced to pay around half.

Welcome to the wonderful world of handouts my friend.

I pointed out in earlier post that the employer pays into it. They match your contribution. Common knowledge.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Are you going to take it?

If you wasn't such a troll I would give you an answer
In the meantime @cheryl please have this POS quit quoting me. I can't put him on ignore

 

[cosmo1]

If you wasn't such a troll I would give you an answer
In the meantime @cheryl please have this POS quit quoting me. I can't put him on ignore

Just a simple question. Relax.

 

[LarryBird]

I pointed out in earlier post that the employer pays into it. They match your contribution. Common knowledge.

It's 12.4% total. You pay 6.2% of all your income up to like $130,000, which give or take a few grand is the 2018 cap, and your employer matches the other 6.2%.

The cap usually rises each year.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Just a simple question. Relax.

I paid over 7k in SS taxes am i not entitled to something back?
I'll probably get a few hundred more a month than somebody that paid a third of what I did