Have shown examples. And as I said, some folks think everything a company makes should go to them. That income year over year should rise in a straight line. Want better pay? Get training in something companies are willing to pay more for, or take a risk and start your own company. You'll then be free to pay people extremely well and make the world a better place.
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DriveInDriveOut
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You're deflecting.
You said cutting social security tax would not trickle down to employees, but cutting corporate tax rate would.
Please explain why you believe that.
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
I think if you had kept the money you'd be better off for a much shorter time than 30 years!
I am sure someone, somewhere has done the math to find out where the break-even point is and at what age you need to be to start getting more than you would have had! I just don't have the energy to research that tonight.
I am sure someone, somewhere has done the math to find out where the break-even point is and at what age you need to be to start getting more than you would have had! I just don't have the energy to research that tonight.
Because SS isn't going anywhere so it's not even worth considering. If it did end that money would've gone into the mix and if it did help improve the economy with more money to invest and grow then it would do exactly as is happening now, which is things are improving for workers but companies aren't giving all the extra to their workers. Has never worked that way and highly doubtful it ever will.
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
Never have I ever heard anyone say this!
I have, on the FedEx forum. We've had people actually say that the company should pay more even if they had to borrow to do it.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You stated cutting social security taxes on employers would not trickle down to employees.
Now, when asked to explain that opinion, you say it's not worth considering.
Ok then.
You're much more interested in tripping up and discrediting posters than discussing an issue. It's what you do, so you go do you.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
I'm discrediting your opinion about social security tax because that's what this thread is about.
You support socialism when it suits you and rant against it when it doesn't benefit you. Try to be consistent buddy.
I am consistent. I want companies to have more to do more. Better for everyone. I also want them to meet their obligations to their employees as mandated by law. Anyone who's worked for any amount of time knows how difficult that can be to get compliance without government mandate.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
They would have more if social security taxes were cut on them.
Which of course you want because you hate paying that tax. SS isn't going away, you make good money, from each according to their ability, to each according to their need. Sorry, couldn't resist.
DriveInDriveOut
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DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
I have no problem with a program to help those in need.
That's not what social security is.
LarryBird
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Why on earth anyone would hate paying social security tax is beyond me. It's basically just a forced savings program to ensure your future against catastrophes. You'll probably get most of it back if you don't die unnaturally young, and might collect much more if you live to be extremely old.
You know who you never hear complaining about social security? The people 65 and older who are collecting it and damn glad it's there.
Just don't worry about it. You never see that money so just look at it like it never existed until the checks start rolling in. By that time, your opinion on ss will surely have changed, like everyone else cashing those checks.
Hey, smartest man on the forum, you answered the wrong poster.
LarryBird
Well-Known Member
No they should not.
You might have more. You might not.
If your investment goes south and you end up busto, the rest of us will be taking care of you anyway. Because I'm sure you wouldn't reach 65 and say, 'well I screwed my investments up, my fault'. 'I'm gonna work til they find me dead on the job'.
So just pay your tax, take your guaranteed payment, and be glad you have a safety net in case. Pension could fail. 401k could go south. US government will make good on it's obligations and pay you what you're owed 100%.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Yes, the secret to financial success is to just not worry about your money and let the federal government be in charge of your retirement savings. What could go wrong....
SMH.
LarryBird
Well-Known Member
No I didn't.Hey, smartest man on the forum, you answered the wrong poster.
It was commentary on why anyone would hate paying ss tax. It wasn't directed at any one person.
You're easily confused.
You answered my post and addressed me. I thought you were familiar with how forums work?
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