New Video! The Great Lunch Debate!

[Cowboy Mac]

Another thing is with the dynamic Orion, lunch is “planned” into the route. So if you don’t take a lunch it will have you getting to your pickups an hour early.

So take a lunch, follow Orion, and make more money.

 

[RoswellHub]

....and thank God Greg didn't sing.

Nice job spreading the word brother…have seen your videos on both Teamsters and upsers Reddit pages.

Thank you!

 

[Wally]

They only see idle time if you’re clocked back in from lunch. Otherwise they don’t care. Anyone who sorts or cleans up off the clock is a spineless coward.

The union need reports of those working for free. Watch how fast it stops.

 

[UnionStrong]

The union need reports of those working for free. Watch how fast it stops.

Only for awhile, then it starts again.

 

[Wally]

Only for awhile, then it starts again.

Then they need notification anytime it occurs.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Then they need notification anytime it occurs.

The diad needs to shut off once you hit lunch

 

[UnionStrong]

Then they need notification anytime it occurs.

The steward told them to stop. The BA threatened to fine them. They would end up coming in early to sort their trucks again.

 

[Wally]

The steward told them to stop. The BA threatened to fine them. They would end up coming in early to sort their trucks again.

Time to file grievances and let them hang.

They did it to themselves.

 

[UnionStrong]

Time to file grievances and let them hang.

They did it to themselves.

I agree. It’s a lack of willingness.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

The union need reports of those working for free. Watch how fast it stops.

I would like to see the average of how many hours per week drivers collectively work for free in my center. I bet it more than totals the equivalent of at least one 9 hour route.

 

[728ups]

The steward told them to stop. The BA threatened to fine them. They would end up coming in early to sort their trucks again.

These were my absolute favorite grievances to file as it infuriated both Management and the Runner Gunners. I filed to be Paid for Time and made quite a few bucks from their labor

 

[UnionStrong]

These were my absolute favorite grievances to file as it infuriated both Management and the Runner Gunners. I filed to be Paid for Time and made quite a few bucks from their labor

I was merciless for a time. It just pissed me off that guys were doing that. Some were pretty senior drivers too!

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

These were my absolute favorite grievances to file as it infuriated both Management and the Runner Gunners. I filed to be Paid for Time and made quite a few bucks from their labor

I guarantee those drivers were immediately working for free during their lunches the same days you filed. I think, in theory, it’s possible to file on that as well. Working off the clock is working off the clock. Regardless of where it happens.

Stewards and/or BAs should probably do an occasional audit by requesting delivery records for each center. It’s kind of a big deal in regards to loss of jobs (for the union) and potential injuries while “on lunch” for the company. Not to mention a contract violation.

 

[Hot Carl]

The main problem with this in our center is guys driving back to the building on their lunch break. That typically earns a warning letter from our center manager, so I've never seen anyone fired for lunch running.

 

[Shorts365]

I don't understand how you guys got the math of leaving money on the table by not taking lunch. If lunch is unpaid, how are you losing money by not taking it? Working 9:00 to 17:00 and skipping lunch gets you paid 8 hours straight time. Working 9:00 to 17:30 and taking lunch gets you paid 8 hours straight time. Am I missing something? Does overtime kick in after 8 hours of paid work? Or does it kick in 8 hours after you clock in? Similarly, I was under the impression that the unpaid lunch break didn't count towards 9.5. In my experience skipping your lunch does indeed get you off that much earlier. Management isn't going to give me less stops if I start taking lunch regularly; they're just going to say "save your resis for after you drop air," and we all know how much fun climbing over pickup volume is. I don't begrudge drivers who take lunch everyday. I prefer to not to take a lunch, but its not the hill I want to die on, (and obviously I'll take lunch if there's a sufficient gap before/between pick ups- I'm not going down for theft of time!) In our building "all drivers must take a lunch" is a flavor of the month, and is kind of a joke because some pure commercial routes as currently dispatched would impossible to complete if a lunch were to be taken, and since those drivers can't take a lunch, management can't discipline other drivers for not taking lunch. Thanks for the videos and any follow up.

 

[542thruNthru]

"all drivers must take a lunch" is a flavor of the month, and is kind of a joke because some pure commercial routes as currently dispatched would impossible to complete if a lunch were to be taken, and since those drivers can't take a lunch, management can't discipline other drivers for not taking lunch. Thanks for the videos and any follow up.

There is your answer. That's the company taking advantage of all the lunch skippers. Those driver's have too much work/pick ups. Also if you have pick up volume and you're bringing it back 30min/1hour later everyday. Management is going to start to feel that. The numbers start to add up and emails start to fly.


Everyone should take a lunch. The rules apply to everyone. Resi, commercial or whatever.

 

[Coldworld]

There is your answer. That's the company taking advantage of all the lunch skippers. Those driver's have too much work/pick ups. Also if you have pick up volume and you're bringing it back 30min/1hour later everyday. Management is going to start to feel that. The numbers start to add up and emails start to fly.


Everyone should take a lunch. The rules apply to everyone. Resi, commercial or whatever.

If every driver were forced to take a 30 minute meal and any breaks they get the company would have to put in thousand(s) of new routes nationwide…I think this is a huge problem and most people don’t know how widespread it actually is…diad needs to go to sleep and you can’t look at it at all until your lunch is over..anyone who is delivering during lunch gets one warning then is gone. Anyone who takes their lunch on the drive to or from their route gets one warning then is gone…

 

[tramtwo]

I was told by an old timer that our lunch break is our only dispatch tool.... so don't skip it and don't move it.

 

[Manifesto]

If you're saving your resis till after air drop and having to climb over pickups, you are obviously going to get more overtime. I only have one pickup and mainly country after some morning commercial so if I wanted to it would be easy to skip my lunch, but I take it every single day. It's good to refresh yourself during the day and I'm having to break trace a bit to find a bathroom and a place to eat so that adds a little time in itself. My route was cut recently and I was on something different. Messaged the building and told them I wouldn't be able to take my lunch and get all the pickups. They took some pickups away. It's not that hard.

 

[Iamsomebody]

I don't understand how you guys got the math of leaving money on the table by not taking lunch. If lunch is unpaid, how are you losing money by not taking it? Working 9:00 to 17:00 and skipping lunch gets you paid 8 hours straight time. Working 9:00 to 17:30 and taking lunch gets you paid 8 hours straight time. Am I missing something? Does overtime kick in after 8 hours of paid work? Or does it kick in 8 hours after you clock in? Similarly, I was under the impression that the unpaid lunch break didn't count towards 9.5. In my experience skipping your lunch does indeed get you off that much earlier. Management isn't going to give me less stops if I start taking lunch regularly; they're just going to say "save your resis for after you drop air," and we all know how much fun climbing over pickup volume is. I don't begrudge drivers who take lunch everyday. I prefer to not to take a lunch, but its not the hill I want to die on, (and obviously I'll take lunch if there's a sufficient gap before/between pick ups- I'm not going down for theft of time!) In our building "all drivers must take a lunch" is a flavor of the month, and is kind of a joke because some pure commercial routes as currently dispatched would impossible to complete if a lunch were to be taken, and since those drivers can't take a lunch, management can't discipline other drivers for not taking lunch. Thanks for the videos and any follow up.

In my building if you don't take it they edit your time card and steal an hour from you. I'm guessing one of the lunch skippers finally got the balls to write a grievance because now we're getting messages reminding driver's to "put a lunch in their board".