November 1st, Welcome to Peak!!!
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Catatonic
Nine Lives
UPS. No doubt about that ... as well as all the rest of us on here.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
SUCKS would be more appropriate.
That right there was funny, yada yada yada....
What'dyabringmetoday???
Well-Known Member
Don't really want to start a fight, but you really should not be proud to take lunch outside of contractual hours. I know many free thinkers believe it has no effect, but racing around to make all the commitments and taking lunches later in the day DOES aid in reduced runs on the road. It will never change though. Funny how people will jump on the union band wagon when something affects them, but not until. This is a general statement and not directed at you.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Would you prefer that I join the gang of 6 or 7 who sit at the Mobil station between 6 and 7pm?
You are right but at this point the mold has been cast.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I am a union member by default. There are many things that unions (not just ours) do that I simply don't agree with. For example, members of the CWA are still holding informational pickets in front of Verizon Wireless stores with the message that VZW are destroying middle class jobs. I thought the Verizon strike had been settled--I guess I was wrong.
The pension that I will start collecting in 2019 will be my reward for 30 years of service to UPS. Yes, the NYS Teamsters Pension Fund manages our pension, investing the contributions wisely to ensure consistent returns, but UPS funds the pension based upon the hours that I work.
I will never be a proud union member. I don't need someone to tell me how to think or how to behave while at work. I come in, do my job, keep my mouth shut and go home.
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
Maybe you should look in the mirror Dave, You are the epitomy of a ME-Ster, one example is stated by your own admission that you were sitting home on your lunch for 1545/1630!! I assure you that is outside your contractual agreement, but you pick the articles that suit YOU!!!!
Don't even come on here talking that crap. I about fell out of my chair laughing when I read that!!
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Google "sarcasm', Grocer.
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
No sir you are wrong, and that is exactly what pisses me off!! Contractually all seniority drivers must be working before any helpers. So, if the higher seniority guys stop volunteering for days off, they have to find something for the cover drivers to do, even if it is to use them as helpers,(at their regular rate of pay by the way) so you are causing the problem by taking days off.
By the way I am a 22 year employee so don't think I don't have ample opportunity to go home!!
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
Who gave their blood, sweat and tears to force your employer to recognize Unions and their bargaining rights so they could negotiate that pension? You really think you would have a pension at all if it were not for your Union?
Just sayin!!
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
I don't think you even realize that you are a ME-Ster! If you wanted it to be a sarcastis post, you would have indicated that I am quit sure!!
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I know full well that I am a me-ster and am fine with that. Next?
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
Another post full of ignorance!! Do you have any idea what the CWA's message is about? Why condemn something you obviously don't understand?
Do you really believe that UPS just gives that money to your pension fund out of the goodness of their hearts? That carefully negotiated dollar figure was put there by the Teamsters for you to enjoy so you would not have to work until your dead. You state that UPS funds the pension. How do you think they make that money? It just magically appears there? No, it came from the sweat of many hard working Union members! So in effect it is us that funded our own pension plan!!
What do you think the company does everyday? How many rules do they have? Last I checked there was a 77 page book full of methods that must be followed 100%. What do you think would happen to you without a Union contract in place to protect you? The company could set your wages where ever they wanted. You think you would still be making $48hr with all your negotiated benefits? You think they would not get rid of the older guys that cost the most money, just because they could? You better be damn glad you have that Union standing up for you and every other member!!
What'dyabringmetoday???
Well-Known Member
I am quite certain that you have gotten yourself into a few "binds" that the Teamsters helped you out of, Me-ster. Like I said, don't want to start a fight. Mostly because I know you do not understand.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
We are both 22 year employees. It wasn't you or me that gave our blood, sweat and tears back then. Relax. I have a union and I'm concerned if I will have a pension in 8 years. It's not a union pension, it's a pension administered by the union funded by employers. Thanks for the neg rep.
Omega man
Well-Known Member
The mold was cast only at the time your contract was agreed upon.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
Agree. Yes, it is bothersome when people (mgmt or hourly) are solely out for themselves, but it's best to relinquish any aspirations or hope for change and just settle for going home everyday. That is somewhat selfish and "me-ster", but What happens between punch in and punch out is no longer relevant in my life- that is what UPS breeds - reap what you sow, I guess.
cabbaGe1971
New Member
all week I went out with 255 and a helper for 3.99 .....80 miles.... 3 zips in a 700....is it over yet????
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