Oregon Counties Want to Join Idaho

[Tom MacDonald]

People aren't allowed to have an opinion about things like state borders. That's the democrats' idea of "democracy". What they call threats to democracy are really just threats to the totalitarian control of the defunct democratic party, now more correctly identified as the Totalitarian Oligarchical Party. They will do anything to stay on TOP, anything.

Oh you dont want to wear a mask all day? You're so entitled.

>puts on 2 masks to virtue signal how obedient they are

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

America is a big place, if you don't like something about your neighborhood (or state) you can always move to a different one that suits you better, people actually do this all the time. Demanding that the state change it's borders just you won't have to go through the trouble of moving seems a bit entitled.

The world is a big place, if you don't like something about your country you can always move to a different one that suits you better, people actually do this all the time. Demanding that the US implement socialist policies just so you don't have to go through the trouble of moving to a country that already has them seems a bit entitled.

 

[vantexan]

America is a big place, if you don't like something about your neighborhood (or state) you can always move to a different one that suits you better, people actually do this all the time. Demanding that the state change it's borders just you won't have to go through the trouble of moving seems a bit entitled.

Yah, family spends 4 or 5 generations working the land, building a ranch or farm or other business, and tax and spend liberals want to take as much as possible from them to give to others while spending little in the county they live in. So the hard working should be the ones who walk away?

 

[Jones]

Yah, family spends 4 or 5 generations working the land, building a ranch or farm or other business, and tax and spend liberals want to take as much as possible from them to give to others while spending little in the county they live in. So the hard working should be the ones who walk away?

They have regular elections in Oregon, if the people aren't happy with the state government then vote them out. If you don't win then your ideas just aren't that popular, that's the way it works. The notion that whoever loses the election can just take part of the state and leave is ridiculous.

 

[vantexan]

They have regular elections in Oregon, if the people aren't happy with the state government then vote them out. If you don't win then your ideas just aren't that popular, that's the way it works. The notion that whoever loses the election can just take part of the state and leave is ridiculous.

That's just it, the bulk of the state's area is conservative, but the bulk of the population is liberal and in the northwest corner. They collect the taxes but spend very little on the rural counties. If this were to happen I bet the land west of the Cascades which includes the coastline would remain in Oregon. Most likely the Oregon government won't go for it. They need those taxes for all of their programs in Portland. And to repair Antifa damage.

 

[It will be fine]

That's just it, the bulk of the state's area is conservative, but the bulk of the population is liberal and in the northwest corner. They collect the taxes but spend very little on the rural counties. If this were to happen I bet the land west of the Cascades which includes the coastline would remain in Oregon. Most likely the Oregon government won't go for it. They need those taxes for all of their programs in Portland. And to repair Antifa damage.

I would imagine the bulk of the taxes comes from the bulk of the population.

 

[vantexan]

I would imagine the bulk of the taxes comes from the bulk of the population.

A lot of poor in those liberal precincts. I imagine the people making good money no matter where they're at pay the bulk of the taxes. The question is if little benefit is seen for their tax dollars in rural counties why should they want to remain? I know you feel like the big liberal population centers should run the whole country, taking away representation from rural states.

 

[MAKAVELI]

A lot of poor in those liberal precincts. I imagine the people making good money no matter where they're at pay the bulk of the taxes. The question is if little benefit is seen for their tax dollars in rural counties why should they want to remain? I know you feel like the big liberal population centers should run the whole country, taking away representation from rural states.

The big cities is where the bulk of the $ and taxes come from. Lol

 

[It will be fine]

A lot of poor in those liberal precincts. I imagine the people making good money no matter where they're at pay the bulk of the taxes. The question is if little benefit is seen for their tax dollars in rural counties why should they want to remain? I know you feel like the big liberal population centers should run the whole country, taking away representation from rural states.

You’re complaining that the bulk of the taxes collected from the bulk of the population gets spent on the bulk of the population? You think rednecks in the sticks should get to take the wealth out of the cities? How redistributionist of you.

 

[Tom MacDonald]

You’re complaining that the bulk of the taxes collected from the bulk of the population gets spent on the bulk of the population? You think rednecks in the sticks should get to take the wealth out of the cities? How redistributionist of you.

You think you're the bulk of the population lol.

 

[vantexan]

You’re complaining that the bulk of the taxes collected from the bulk of the population gets spent on the bulk of the population? You think rednecks in the sticks should get to take the wealth out of the cities? How redistributionist of you.

The complaint is very little is spent on their counties. It's very telling that you consider anyone in a rural area a redneck.

 

[vantexan]

The big cities is where the bulk of the $ and taxes come from. Lol

True.

 

[Nolimitz]

The complaint is very little is spent on their counties. It's very telling that you consider anyone in a rural area a redneck.

And you think it works differently in Idaho? Busting a gut in Boise

 

[vantexan]

And you think it works differently in Idaho? Busting a gut in Boise

It's not a matter of what I think. I didn't come up with this idea. People from those counties feel their values align better with Idaho than the rest of Oregon. What you guys aren't seeing is all through history people have revolted in various ways from what they considered heavy handed governance. At the very least this is a way to protest in order to wake up the state government in Salem. If the opposite were true I'm 100% certain y'all would say the liberal areas of Oregon have every right to break away from those nasty conservatives if they want to.

 

[vantexan]

And you think it works differently in Idaho? Busting a gut in Boise

P.S. Lucky you, Boise is awesome!

 

[It will be fine]

The complaint is very little is spent on their counties. It's very telling that you consider anyone in a rural area a redneck.

Rednecks are complaining they don’t get to spend other people’s money on themselves. They want to steal the money from the urban tax base for their own gain. They should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and stop asking for handouts.

 

[vantexan]

Rednecks are complaining they don’t get to spend other people’s money on themselves. They want to steal the money from the urban tax base for their own gain. They should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and stop asking for handouts.

So you're saying they should pay taxes but not expect anything in return like better roads, etc? People in these kind of counties tend to be self sufficient and don't believe in paying for every liberal program dreamt up to keep people dependent. Which is why they are fed up with Oregon's liberal government and want to join up with a state that reflects their values.

 

[It will be fine]

So you're saying they should pay taxes but not expect anything in return like better roads, etc? People in these kind of counties tend to be self sufficient and don't believe in paying for every liberal program dreamt up to keep people dependent. Which is why they are fed up with Oregon's liberal government and want to join up with a state that reflects their values.

They have plenty of reasonable options. Move. Advocate for the spending they believe in and candidates that align with their views. Pave their own roads and quit crying. This victimhood complex that’s infected the right is destructive.

 

[vantexan]

They have plenty of reasonable options. Move. Advocate for the spending they believe in and candidates that align with their views. Pave their own roads and quit crying. This victimhood complex that’s infected the right is destructive.

There's no chance of getting their candidates into power. So many libs have moved from California into the Portland area that there's literally no chance a Republican will hold statewide office. And who are you to tell people to leave their homes like they're discarding used tissue? Let's face it, give a liberal power over conservatives and they'll never relinquish it if they can keep control by hook or crook. Your way or the highway.

 

[It will be fine]

There's no chance of getting their candidates into power. So many libs have moved from California into the Portland area that there's literally no chance a Republican will hold statewide office. And who are you to tell people to leave their homes like they're discarding used tissue? Let's face it, give a liberal power over conservatives and they'll never relinquish it if they can keep control by hook or crook. Your way or the highway.

Poor republicans, they can’t win elections with their unpopular ideas. I’m not sure why you think a minority viewpoint should control the government. Maybe if republicans stopped embracing white nationalism they’d have a better shot at the ballot box.