Orion. Center Manager losing his mind.

Thegameisrigged

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If they go for that idea we are doomed. UPS will crash and burn at peak if that is the plan.
My question is why don’t they just realize it doesn’t work as they planned it would? You’d think overallow went down as a result of forced Orion given the fact that that the higher ups swear by it, but overallow went way up.
 

Heavy Package

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Today at the PCM was classic. center manager went off the rails on Orion, paid over this week is throw the roof, a couple of drivers pushing 60 hours tonight

So while digging for my 9th stop on my 7400 shelf on Friday, here's my 2 points on losing RDO and getting the turn by turn maps. Since UPS is all about the numbers.....All hypothetical just like every number at UPS.

Point 1. Say ORION is great and saves 10 miles per route per day. Gas averages at $3/gallon and we save 1.5 gallons of gas per route per day. That's a savings of $4.50. But labor increases 1 hr per day to dig for packages at an average OT rate of $40/hr.

Loss per route: $36.50 / day.

Weekly increase in cost on a 50-route center per week: $9,125.00 Dollars

Putting 60,000 drivers in the USA per week: $10,950,000 ADDED COST PER WEEK

Point 2.
Turn by turn maps and directions are coming per my center manager very soon. What no one has mentioned is that if you skip stops / scroll down to do things efficiently and make service - THE MAP DIRECTIONS KEEP TELLING YOU TO GO TO THE STOP AT THE TOP OF THE DIAD!!! You can never hit a stop and then keep going without following exact ORION trace. This is truly asinine.

I can't even imagine the new guys, who we need to drop boxes, are going to make it this peak. It is a true train wreck and I will take every last dollar of OT this peak to the bank.

train-wreck-wallpaper__yvt2.jpg
 

Delivery!!!

Well-Known Member
So while digging for my 9th stop on my 7400 shelf on Friday, here's my 2 points on losing RDO and getting the turn by turn maps. Since UPS is all about the numbers.....All hypothetical just like every number at UPS.

Point 1. Say ORION is great and saves 10 miles per route per day. Gas averages at $3/gallon and we save 1.5 gallons of gas per route per day. That's a savings of $4.50. But labor increases 1 hr per day to dig for packages at an average OT rate of $40/hr.

Loss per route: $36.50 / day.

Weekly increase in cost on a 50-route center per week: $9,125.00 Dollars

Putting 60,000 drivers in the USA per week: $10,950,000 ADDED COST PER WEEK

Point 2.
Turn by turn maps and directions are coming per my center manager very soon. What no one has mentioned is that if you skip stops / scroll down to do things efficiently and make service - THE MAP DIRECTIONS KEEP TELLING YOU TO GO TO THE STOP AT THE TOP OF THE DIAD!!! You can never hit a stop and then keep going without following exact ORION trace. This is truly asinine.

I can't even imagine the new guys, who we need to drop boxes, are going to make it this peak. It is a true train wreck and I will take every last dollar of OT this peak to the bank.

train-wreck-wallpaper__yvt2.jpg
I believe if you put the carrot where you jump to it fixes the directions issue
 

JL 0513

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Imagine trying to qualify as a driver running forced Orion? There's two major elements you get no time allowance for. All the left turns against traffic and randomized package selection and digging. So when this all adds an hour to your day, management just thinks you're a loser. That seems fair.
 

Dr.Brownz

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Today at the PCM was classic. center manager went off the rails on Orion, paid over this week is throw the roof, a couple of drivers pushing 60 hours tonight.

We asked the center manager to help us by Turning Orion off, he can't. Sorry but your bosses told us to do it this way, work as directed.

Cant wait for Xmas, hopefully my center manager doesn't stroke out.

Your center manager is an idiot. My center is going through the same problem. They can turn off orion and make it RDO for certain routes if they want
 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
Imagine trying to qualify as a driver running forced Orion?


And imagine (if anyone bids the job)

An ORS trying to train someone ? The hilarity will ensue.

If the Master Language passes, it's not going to be as bad.... as some people think.


22.4's will be a complete washout.
 

vvv

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Don't need them to turn it off, I can turn it off myself :)

Just my 2 cents, but for one why do them that favor? Sure it's a hassle having it all mixed up. But make it their problem and not yours.
Secondly, although I'm sure management won't complain in that they want things done as fast as possible.....I wouldn't trust them for nothing. You guys are essentially tampering with company property and are exposing yourselves to potential discipline from my perspective.
 
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