Part time poverty

[Hannah-banana]

Bring it

What if we all showed up at the same time? We out number them

 

[PT Car Washer]

Why?
Please explain to me why you think someone working two 20 hour jobs doesn't deserve a living wage, but someone working one 40 hour job does.




Or maybe you just don't understand what living wage means.

And why is a package delivery driver able to make a $100k a year. Because they work hard? A lot of people work hard and don't make half as much.

 

[Hannah-banana]

And why is a package delivery driver able to make a $100k a year. Because they work hard? A lot of people work hard and don't make half as much.

Because of the union.

 

[Hannah-banana]

And why is a package delivery driver able to make a $100k a year. Because they work hard? A lot of people work hard and don't make half as much.

People died so we could organize. We should do it more often

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

And why is a package delivery driver able to make a $100k a year. Because they work hard? A lot of people work hard and don't make half as much.

Because UPS employees organized.
The company did a good job of disorganizing us and the part time wage is one of the results.

 

[PT Car Washer]

What if we all showed up at the same time? We out number them

But you do not control anything. Either the company or the Union or both will buy you out with an easier job with more pay or you will be coerced into quitting or being fired. Seen it too many times.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Because UPS employees organized.
The company did a good job of disorganizing us and the part time wage is one of the results.

The company paid off the FT Union members at the expense of the PT members. Last few contracts going after the future FT members with the 3 and now 4 year progression. I make more working PT then the FT package delivery drivers still in progression.

 

[El Correcto]

Why?
Please explain to me why you think someone working two 20 hour jobs doesn't deserve a living wage, but someone working one 40 hour job does.




Or maybe you just don't understand what living wage means.

There’s this thing called supply and demand.
People with no skills are in low demand and becoming lower demand by the second. Now with automation in play it’ll be hard to ever justifying paying these people more than what automation would cost from a business standpoint. Unless the government started incentivizing it with tax breaks or something.

Someone working a full time job isn’t automatically entitled to a living wage either. If theres millions of people who will do that job for less than a liveable wage they will be paid at less than a liveable wage.

You can try introducing nationalized artificial wage increases, but this will lead to inflation and automation. You’ll be taking away people’s ability to compete with automation while also raising the prices of a lot of consumer goods.

Don’t get me started on open borders and what that would do to some of the jobs left for unskilled workers and liveable wages.

 

[Hannah-banana]

But you do not control anything. Either the company or the Union or both will buy you out with an easier job with more pay or you will be coerced into quitting or being fired. Seen it too many times.

Nope. Not giving in. It's a good day to die. Let's do this

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

There’s this thing called supply and demand.
People with no skills are in low demand and becoming lower demand by the second. Now with automation in play it’ll be hard to ever justifying paying these people more than what automation would cost from a business standpoint. Unless the government started incentivizing it with tax breaks or something.

Someone working a full time job isn’t automatically entitled to a living wage either. If theres millions of people who will do that job for less than a liveable wage they will be paid at less than a liveable wage.

You can try introducing nationalized artificial wage increases, but this will lead to inflation and automation. You’ll be taking away people’s ability to compete with automation while also raising the prices of a lot of consumer goods.

Don’t get me started on open borders and what that would do to some of the jobs left for unskilled workers and liveable wages.

Your vastly over simplified economic theory is adorable. I bet you're the smartest guy in every room you've ever been in.

Stick to your day job buddy.

 

[Hannah-banana]

There’s this thing called supply and demand.
People with no skills are in low demand and becoming lower demand by the second. Now with automation in play it’ll be hard to ever justifying paying these people more than what automation would cost from a business standpoint. Unless the government started incentivizing it with tax breaks or something.

Someone working a full time job isn’t automatically entitled to a living wage either. If theres millions of people who will do that job for less than a liveable wage they will be paid at less than a liveable wage.

You can try introducing nationalized artificial wage increases, but this will lead to inflation and automation. You’ll be taking away people’s ability to compete with automation while also raising the prices of a lot of consumer goods.

Don’t get me started on open borders and what that would do to some of the jobs left for unskilled workers and liveable wages.

Brilliant response. And very true. But we are still living people on this earth. So what can we do?

Have you read about the Luddite revolution in England in 1811?

 

[El Correcto]

Your vastly over simplified economic theory is adorable. I bet you're the smartest guy in every room you've ever been in.

Stick to your day job buddy.

What’s your opinion on the matter? These aren’t my theories, it’s just the arguments I’ve heard made in favor of not artificially inflating the price of labor.

 

[Hannah-banana]

Your vastly over simplified economic theory is adorable. I bet you're the smartest guy in every room you've ever been in.

Stick to your day job buddy.

Come on, he made a valid point. I think these are things that we are up against.

 

[El Correcto]

Brilliant response. And very true. But we are still living people on this earth. So what can we do?

Have you read about the Luddite revolution in England in 1811?

I just googled and get the drift.

You can start your education. Invest in yourself and learn a trade that’s in demand.
Stay competitive and meet the markets demands.

 

[El Correcto]

Come on, he made a valid point. I think these are things that we are up against.

That guy voted for Gary Johnson, don’t waste your time he a lost cause.

 

[PT Car Washer]

People with no skills are in low demand and becoming lower demand by the second.

Sounds like you are talking about a package delivery driver. The days of a delivery driver making $100k a year are numbered. I give it less then 10 years depending on how the current FT Union members sell out this contract.

 

[Hannah-banana]

I just googled and get the drift.

You can start your education. Invest in yourself and learn a trade that’s in demand.
Stay competitive and meet the markets demands.

It seems like shipping is in high demand, with more and more people shopping online... What do you suggest?

 

[El Correcto]

Sounds like you are talking about a package delivery driver. The days of a delivery driver making $100k a year are numbered. I give it less then 10 years depending on how the current FT Union members sell out this contract.

I worry about this. I don’t think my job will last my lifetime and am taking steps to move forward with my life now instead of when I’m 40.

 

[Hannah-banana]

Sounds like you are talking about a package delivery driver. The days of a delivery driver making $100k a year are numbered. I give it less then 10 years depending on how the current FT Union members sell out this contract.

 

[Hannah-banana]

Yeah. Without a serious uprising, only the currently wealthy will continue to accumulate wealth.

Common people and our trades are sacred and inherently valuable. We should organize like our lives depend on it. Because they do.