Peak like volume!

[Johney]

What was once 8 hrs planned, is now 9-10 hrs planned. So I want to speculate drivers "going out under 8" are very likely being dispatched with a good bit more than 8 hrs and delivering Carol her $$$ and then some.

Maybe, but he said his route is about 130 for 8 and he's been getting around 105.

 

[moldsporh]

Picked up a bit here, could be the panic buy of pre-tariff items.

 

[UnionStrong]

What was once 8 hrs planned, is now 9-10 hrs planned. So I want to speculate drivers "going out under 8" are very likely being dispatched with a good bit more than 8 hrs and delivering Carol her $$$ and then some.

Absolutely

 

[moldsporh]

Maybe, but he said his route is about 130 for 8 and he's been getting around 105.

What was 130 on his rte 8-10 years ago? What about before Orion and virtual time studies? My guess is 105 with a steady pace, no BS, likely takes more than 8 hrs...I would assume.

 

[UnionStrong]

What was 130 on his rte 8-10 years ago? What about before Orion and virtual time studies? My guess is 105 with a steady pace, no BS, likely takes more than 8 hrs...I would assume.

Depends. I did routes with 130 in 8-9 hours. Not many pick ups. But you’re right, since the EDs system began, stop counts have become ridiculous. Supposedly all the new tech makes it easier for the drivers, enabling them to do more work in less time. That’s true to an extent, but they blew right through that benefit a long time ago.

 

[Johney]

What was 130 on his rte 8-10 years ago? What about before Orion and virtual time studies? My guess is 105 with a steady pace, no BS, likely takes more than 8 hrs...I would assume.

All stop counts have changed over the years. My last bid before feeders I was on for close to 8 years and in that time the area changed 0, but my stop count went from 120 to 160 for 8 hours. This was before Orion and right around EDD start up.

 

[UnionStrong]

All stop counts have changed over the years. My last bid before feeders I was on for close to 8 years and in that time the area changed 0, but my stop count went from 120 to 160 for 8 hours. This was before Orion and right around EDD start up.

Yep, routes that I could cake walk, became nightmares, and they were some of the furthest from the bldg.

 

[Thebrownblob]

What was once 8 hrs planned, is now 9-10 hrs planned. So I want to speculate drivers "going out under 8" are very likely being dispatched with a good bit more than 8 hrs and delivering Carol her $$$ and then some.

I couldn’t care less what they plan is, 8hours is eight hours for me. I’m heading back to the building at 7 1/2 and clocking out at my eight. i’ll have given them enough warning throughout the day that that was going to happen if they don’t wanna take care of the problem, that’s up to them.

 

[moldsporh]

I remember when my route had about 110-115, planned about 8.45 - 9 hrs. and was a bit heavy, roughly 60% business, 20 pup. Peak was around 150 and I had a helper. Now that route has been divided up a bit, depends on the day, but driver now goes out with 160-170 and is humping his ace off....barely gets 9 hrs planned. They basically put 50 stops on the route, now in a P12 over a P1000.

 

[UnionStrong]

I couldn’t care less what they plan is, 8hours is eight hours for me. I’m heading back to the building at 7 1/2 and clocking out at my eight. i’ll have given them enough warning throughout the day that that was going to happen if they don’t wanna take care of the problem, that’s up to them.

Yes, Don Corleone, but that’s an 8 hr request, what guarantee do I have that the rest of the week won’t blow up. I think that’s his point, they have increased what an 8 hour day is to the point of absurdity, in many cases, and it’s the new normal.

 

[UnionStrong]

I remember when my route had about 110-115, planned about 8.45 - 9 hrs. and was a bit heavy, roughly 60% business, 20 pup. Peak was around 150 and I had a helper. Now that route has been divided up a bit, depends on the day, but driver now goes out with 160-170 and is humping his ace off....barely gets 9 hrs planned. They basically put 50 stops on the route, now in a P12 over a P1000.

Exactly

 

[UnionStrong]

I remember when my route had about 110-115, planned about 8.45 - 9 hrs. and was a bit heavy, roughly 60% business, 20 pup. Peak was around 150 and I had a helper. Now that route has been divided up a bit, depends on the day, but driver now goes out with 160-170 and is humping his ace off....barely gets 9 hrs planned. They basically put 50 stops on the route, now in a P12 over a P1000.

They always pushed the envelope as far as stops on car, even before the Diads. It was to see who was stupid enough to work through lunchtime. Now it’s ridiculous, everyone is acclimated to high stop counts.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yes, Don Corleone, but that’s an 8 hr request, what guarantee do I have that the rest of the week won’t blow up. I think that’s his point, they have increased what an 8 hour day is to the point of absurdity, in many cases, and it’s the new normal.

I don’t know. I did 60 stops today. I’m the wrong person to ask.

 

[UnionStrong]

I don’t know. I did 60 stops today. I’m the wrong person to ask.

in union goon!

 

[Thebrownblob]

in union goon!

Sometimes they give me 80 stops and that’s pushing it and they know it.

 

[UnionStrong]

Sometimes they give me 80 stops and that’s pushing it and they know it.

Because you’re a protected class…morbidly obese.

 

[UnionStrong]

Sometimes they give me 80 stops and that’s pushing it and they know it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I got knuckleheads in my center who load their truck off the clock skip their lunch, do 220 stops by 4:30 and then cry because they’re forced to go help. I feel exactly no sympathy for them.

 

[Brownwind]

I got knuckleheads in my center who load their truck off the clock skip their lunch due 220 stops by 4:30 and then cry because they’re forced to go help. I feel exactly no sympathy for them.

It’s like that every where from what I’m reading. Why would anyone work for free.

 

[UnionStrong]

I got knuckleheads in my center who load their truck off the clock skip their lunch due 220 stops by 4:30 and then cry because they’re forced to go help. I feel exactly no sympathy for them.

Can’t you do anything about the off the clock stuff? As far as runners, they’ve been around since Jesus was in short pants.