Police Brutality & Executions

rickyb

Well-Known Member
I find your terminology to describe a Law Enforcement Officer offensive.
america doesnt have law enforcement. none of the bankers went to jail, you have a huge corporate crime wave, and presidents kill millions around the world and walk free after.

i dont think pigs enforce the law. they selectively enforce some laws. its tax revenue. and then its about oppressing blacks and spanish. and pigs do it through fear and ignorance quite often.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
wow you cant make this stuff up!

Jeff Sessions Wants to Make “Legalized Theft” Great Again


The practice — known as “civil asset forfeiture” — became widespread as part of the drug crackdown in the 1980s, after Congress passed a law in 1984 that allowed the Department of Justice to keep the property it seized. At the time, forfeiture was billed as a way to undermine the resources of large criminal enterprises, but law enforcement saw it as a way to underwrite their budgets, and have overwhelmingly gone after people without the means to challenge the seizures in court.

The practice has become so widespread that in 2014, law enforcement officers took more property from American citizens than all home and office burglaries combined.

...“These purported safeguards amount to little more than self-policing, and we all know how well that works,” said Kanya Bennett, a lawyer for the ACLU that focuses on criminal justice issues. “We can’t trust the very law enforcement agencies that stand to profit from a forfeiture to police themselves.”

in this interview they say that cops can steal peoples property before they are even found guilty. and the proceeds from property theft goes straight to the police depts budget LOL
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Break-in suspect shot, man in home charged

Kyle Earl Munroe was arrested on July 12 after RCMP and Halifax Regional Police responded to a report of a home invasion involving firearms at a home in Porters Lake.

Police said that three men entered the residence with guns and a struggle took place with two men inside.

The two in the home seized a firearm from one of the suspects and several shots were fired as the suspects fled. Police later located one of the suspects, who had non-life-threatening gunshot wounds.

Munroe faces charges of attempted murder, intent to discharge a firearm, intent to discharge a firearm when being reckless, careless use of a firearm, improper storage of a firearm, pointing a firearm, possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a firearm knowing that possession is unauthorized, and possession for the purpose of trafficking.

Munroe is banned from any contact with two named individuals, must attend court as ordered, keep the peace and be of good behaviour, not leave his residence except for essential activities such as work or medical appointments, remain in Nova Scotia, not consume drugs or alcohol, not possess a cellphone or pager, have no weapons, and answer the door to police when they check at his home.
 

wayfair

swollen member
Break-in suspect shot, man in home charged

Kyle Earl Munroe was arrested on July 12 after RCMP and Halifax Regional Police responded to a report of a home invasion involving firearms at a home in Porters Lake.

Police said that three men entered the residence with guns and a struggle took place with two men inside.

The two in the home seized a firearm from one of the suspects and several shots were fired as the suspects fled. Police later located one of the suspects, who had non-life-threatening gunshot wounds.

Munroe faces charges of attempted murder, intent to discharge a firearm, intent to discharge a firearm when being reckless, careless use of a firearm, improper storage of a firearm, pointing a firearm, possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a firearm knowing that possession is unauthorized, and possession for the purpose of trafficking.

Munroe is banned from any contact with two named individuals, must attend court as ordered, keep the peace and be of good behaviour, not leave his residence except for essential activities such as work or medical appointments, remain in Nova Scotia, not consume drugs or alcohol, not possess a cellphone or pager, have no weapons, and answer the door to police when they check at his home.

gotta love canada...
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
One of the things I look at when trying to understand why a person takes the position they take on a given issue, is what is their stake in that issue as an individual.

So, some Americans see police violence and misconduct as a real threat and a reality based on their personal interactions with the police, what they have seen first hand, the experiences of friends and family, combined with stats about the level of violence and misconduct carried out by police across the nation.

So their stake in this issue is clear, based on their personal experiences as well as stats about police violence and misconduct, they want local police departments to be less violent with the citizens they serve, treat the citizens they serve with respect, and to be held accountable when they mistreat those citizens.

So what's the stake of the individual's on the other side of this issue?

It seems to be some combination of fealty to the authority of the state which endows police with a tremendous amount of power over someone's life, but almost zero responsibility in how that power is carried out, and a belief that police violence and misconduct levels are ok and can't be lessened or improved, but either way, their stake in the issue has nothing to do with the citizens who want to decrease levels of police violence and misconduct on citizens at the local level.

So you end up with these strange discussions where people who care about police misconduct use incidents like the one in the video above to say see this is why this stuff has to be curtailed, and the opposition saying they are ok with whatever the cop did and the level of police violence in America is ok with them for these irrelevant reasons and the police must be obeyed.

They two sides aren't even talking in the same realm.

It is a very weird dynamic.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
we have an epidemic of cops with PTSD because of what they have to deal with. so what causes people to act out in such ways, and is capitalism to blame and how much?
 

Non sequitur

Well-Known Member
Its lack of oversite from parents, community code enforcement and police not walking these neighborhoods and getting to know their taxpayers which has led to the massive disconnect in poor urban communities.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Its lack of oversite from parents, community code enforcement and police not walking these neighborhoods and getting to know their taxpayers which has led to the massive disconnect in poor urban communities.
Apathetic parents, a destructive culture and a ubiquity of guns might be another way of expressing the issues.
The crux of the biscuit is the lack of entry level jobs paying above minimum wage and the expectations that just living entitles one to the American Dream.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Its lack of oversite from parents, community code enforcement and police not walking these neighborhoods and getting to know their taxpayers which has led to the massive disconnect in poor urban communities.


No offense but this is nonsense. What does parenting have to do with police violence and police misconduct?

Tamir Rice a 12 year old boy was playing in the park with a toy gun and was killed by the police on sight.

John Crawford picked up a toy gun in a Walmart and was killed by police on sight.

Walter Scott was shot in the back while running away from a cop who pulled him over for a taillight and the cop tried to plant a weapon on him.

Eric Garner broke up a fight and that drew the attention of the police and they killed him for no reason.

Philando Castile was killed by a cop while legally possessing a gun and following the cops orders to get his license.

Freddie Gray started running when he saw the police and was thrown in the back of a police van that resulted in his death.

Over and over and over again, we see incidents where people are not breaking the law and yet.... the police kill them.

Heck and that's not even the half of it, these interactions that lead to deadly results are the most extreme version of the lower levels of violence and disrespect that many many citizens receive from police on a daily, monthly and yearly basis while they aren't breaking the law.

Again by pretending that better parenting can save someone from police violence and misconduct, we let the police off the hook for being responsible for their interactions with citizens.
 

Non sequitur

Well-Known Member
Except hurricanes, earthquake's, tornadoes. Human beings are rational creature's with freedom to choose. Many make :censored2:ttty choices that effect all of us.
 

wayfair

swollen member
Philando Castile was killed by a cop while legally possessing a gun and following the cops orders to get his license.


Over and over and over again, we see incidents where people are not breaking the law and yet.... the police kill them.

Heck and that's not even the half of it, these interactions that lead to deadly results are the most extreme version of the lower levels of violence and disrespect that many many citizens receive from police on a daily, monthly and yearly basis while they aren't breaking the law.

Again by pretending that better parenting can save someone from police violence and misconduct, we let the police off the hook for being responsible for their interactions with citizens.


since you can read minds...
 
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