President Trump

[Box Ox]

That’s telling ... the 2 Presidents with the best numbers were also the two most ineffective Presidents of the group!
Obama and Carter ... LOL

Where do you think Trump will have ended up in the Presidential rankings at the end of his term or terms? Here are the results of a CSPAN poll of Presidential historians from 2017:

Survey: Historians rank Obama 12th best president

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Dwight Eisenhower
6. Harry Truman
7. Thomas Jefferson
8. John friend. Kennedy
9. Ronald Reagan
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Woodrow Wilson
12. Barack Obama
13. James Monroe
14. James Polk
15. Bill Clinton
16. William McKinley
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams
20. George H.W. Bush
21. John Q. Adams
22. Ulysses Grant
23. Grover Cleveland
24. William Taft
25. Gerald Ford
26. Jimmy Carter
27. Calvin Coolidge
28. Richard Nixon
29. James Garfield
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. Zachary Taylor
32. Rutherford Hayes
33. George W. Bush
34. Martin Van Buren
35. Chester Arthur
36. Herbert Hoover
37. Millard Fillmore
38. William Harrison
39. John Tyler
40. Warren Harding
41. Franklin Pierce
42. Andrew Johnson
43. James Buchanan

 

[watdaflock?]

Some people choose to provide the IRS with an interest free loan, at least they know within a few days when they'll get their money provided back.
Unfortunately when we provide the union with an "interest free loan" as in our retro checks, no idea when we'll get our money.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Where do you think Trump will have ended up in the Presidential rankings at the end of his term or terms? Here are the results of a CSPAN poll of Presidential historians from 2017:

Survey: Historians rank Obama 12th best president

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Dwight Eisenhower
6. Harry Truman
7. Thomas Jefferson
8. John friend. Kennedy
9. Ronald Reagan
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Woodrow Wilson
12. Barack Obama
13. James Monroe
14. James Polk
15. Bill Clinton
16. William McKinley
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams
20. George H.W. Bush
21. John Q. Adams
22. Ulysses Grant
23. Grover Cleveland
24. William Taft
25. Gerald Ford
26. Jimmy Carter
27. Calvin Coolidge
28. Richard Nixon
29. James Garfield
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. Zachary Taylor
32. Rutherford Hayes
33. George W. Bush
34. Martin Van Buren
35. Chester Arthur
36. Herbert Hoover
37. Millard Fillmore
38. William Harrison
39. John Tyler
40. Warren Harding
41. Franklin Pierce
42. Andrew Johnson
43. James Buchanan

I like this list and pretty much agree with the rankings based on my readings over the years.
I saw a couple I would rate above Obama but then that true of almost all the rankings.
Wilson was a pathetic president ... I'm surprised he is above Obama. He should be in the bottom 5.
There is no way Lincoln should be #1 ... he screwed everything up except defeating the Confederacy.
I like IKE but I question his ranking of #5.

Bush Jr and Obama should be in the bottom 5 if 'fiscal responsibility' was a criteria.

These three should be in the top 10 in my opinion:
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I
Bush Jr and Obama should be in the bottom 5 if 'fiscal responsibility' was a criteria.

Using that logic so should Trump.

 

[El Correcto]

Where do you think Trump will have ended up in the Presidential rankings at the end of his term or terms? Here are the results of a CSPAN poll of Presidential historians from 2017:

Survey: Historians rank Obama 12th best president

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Dwight Eisenhower
6. Harry Truman
7. Thomas Jefferson
8. John friend. Kennedy
9. Ronald Reagan
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Woodrow Wilson
12. Barack Obama
13. James Monroe
14. James Polk
15. Bill Clinton
16. William McKinley
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams
20. George H.W. Bush
21. John Q. Adams
22. Ulysses Grant
23. Grover Cleveland
24. William Taft
25. Gerald Ford
26. Jimmy Carter
27. Calvin Coolidge
28. Richard Nixon
29. James Garfield
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. Zachary Taylor
32. Rutherford Hayes
33. George W. Bush
34. Martin Van Buren
35. Chester Arthur
36. Herbert Hoover
37. Millard Fillmore
38. William Harrison
39. John Tyler
40. Warren Harding
41. Franklin Pierce
42. Andrew Johnson
43. James Buchanan

Roosevelt, FDR, Truman, Obama, LBJ, Woodrow, all progressive garbage bottom of the list commies.

The real list is Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, Coolidge, Andrew Jackson, Cleveland, Monroe and Trump from saving us from a disaster called Hillary.

 

[vantexan]

I like this list and pretty much agree with the rankings based on my readings over the years.
I saw a couple I would rate above Obama but then that true of almost all the rankings.
Wilson was a pathetic president ... I'm surprised he is above Obama. He should be in the bottom 5.
There is no way Lincoln should be #1 ... he screwed everything up except defeating the Confederacy.
I like IKE but I question his ranking of #5.

Bush Jr and Obama should be in the bottom 5 if 'fiscal responsibility' was a criteria.

These three should be in the top 10 in my opinion:
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams

How is Jimmy Carter 26th?

 

[El Correcto]

Also Nixon wasn’t great but he is above carter. Carter is bottom bitch. Even below the guy that endorsed Dred Scott.

 

[Box Ox]

Carter is bottom bitch.

Kinda like being a Log Cabin Republican?

 

[El Correcto]

Kinda like being a Log Cabin Republican?

Not really, more like being a democrat in 2020.

 

[El Correcto]

These jackasses wanted to put FDR at the top of the list. They had to pay homage to Washington and Lincoln.

 

[El Correcto]

FDR was one of the most destructive presidents ever and the closest we have come to a dictator that these democrats making the list call every republican president.

He was the one who really pushed collectivism over the edge and redefined our relationship with the federal government. He is the reason I’m having to pay boomers to sit on their ass and collect social security instead of working for their retirement and that’s their top pick.

 

[bbsam]

FDR was one of the most destructive presidents ever and the closest we have come to a dictator that these democrats making the list call every republican president.

He was the one who really pushed collectivism over the edge and redefined our relationship with the federal government. He is the reason I’m having to pay boomers to sit on their ass and collect social security instead of working for their retirement and that’s their top pick.

You do realize that there have been republican and democratic administrations and congresses a plenty that could have ended social security, right? And yet you want to blame FDR? Because generations actually like what he did?

And to hear y’all tail cry about “socialism”...no wonder millennial love the sounds of socialism. They see the boomers enjoying the hell out of it!

 

[vantexan]

You do realize that there have been republican and democratic administrations and congresses a plenty that could have ended social security, right? And yet you want to blame FDR? Because generations actually like what he did?

And to hear y’all tail cry about “socialism”...no wonder millennial love the sounds of socialism. They see the boomers enjoying the hell out of it!

Social insurance, not socialism.

 

[vantexan]

FDR was one of the most destructive presidents ever and the closest we have come to a dictator that these democrats making the list call every republican president.

He was the one who really pushed collectivism over the edge and redefined our relationship with the federal government. He is the reason I’m having to pay boomers to sit on their ass and collect social security instead of working for their retirement and that’s their top pick.

Social Security doesn't pay enough to just sit around. It does insure that seniors don't become severely impoverished, as well as orphans, disabled. It's the best thing that the Democrats ever came up with, and I paid into it just as you are, as we all are outside of a few unique situations like railroad employees.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

How is Jimmy Carter 26th?

Instead of 46th?
I think most people understand his fiscal policies even though they don't agree with them.

A better question is why the hell is Obama 12th? Holy !!!

 

[El Correcto]

You do realize that there have been republican and democratic administrations and congresses a plenty that could have ended social security, right? And yet you want to blame FDR? Because generations actually like what he did?

And to hear y’all tail cry about “socialism”...no wonder millennial love the sounds of socialism. They see the boomers enjoying the hell out of it!

Name some big government entitlements that have ever ended.

Social Security doesn't pay enough to just sit around. It does insure that seniors don't become severely impoverished, as well as orphans, disabled. It's the best thing that the Democrats ever came up with, and I paid into it just as you are, as we all are outside of a few unique situations like railroad employees.

And that’s why you’re a boomertive.

 

[El Correcto]

Social insurance, not socialism.

 

[bbsam]

Name some big government entitlements that have ever ended.

And that’s why you’re a boomertive.

So people do like socialism.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

So people do like socialism.

People like to get things without paying for them!

 

[El Correcto]

So people do like socialism.

Well yeah, in my opinion we are born with socialist tendencies and leanings.

Like when I was around 6 years old I had the same political beliefs as Ocasio Cortez, why don’t we just give all the homeless people a home so they aren’t homeless.

Then you grow up and pay taxes, learn some history and find out the government is hardly ever the good guy.