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Thebrownblob

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šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜…šŸ˜šŸ¤£set the bar huh? Set the bar on how to get :censored2:ed over maybe
The sad part is, you’re still here, working under this awful deal that the people you worked with voted for buy a large margin. Clearly you’re smarter, more talented, and better than everyone you work with I’m not certain why you’re wasting your time here.šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø
 

Thebrownblob

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šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜…šŸ˜šŸ¤£set the bar huh? Set the bar on how to get :censored2:ed over maybe








 

Non liberal

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Right and Sean said basically we took them to the woodshed I got everything we want. That’s what both sides will do and say they won knowing they came to an agreement that met in the middle. They’re speaking to their base. Her the shareholders, him his members, Why don’t you understand that?
We already make a top scale about $14 more an hour than the UAW. We have better insurance and we have a better pension. If there’s somewhere that’s that much better I’m not certain where it’s at, and why you’re not there, and why you’re not telling us where it’s at so we can go with you. just about every financial publication you could think of has said this is an incredibly bad deal for UPS because of the costs. I guess they don’t know what they’re talking about.
Lol, I understand that just fine. It doesn’t make it true. Either side. You can figure out for yourself a 3.3% annual raise isn’t sufficient. Especially with the inflation we are enduring. Whether or not we can make more a
The sad part is, you’re still here, working under this awful deal that the people you worked with voted for buy a large margin. Clearly you’re smarter, more talented, and better than everyone you work with I’m not certain why you’re wasting your time here.šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø
whether that’s true or not is irrelevant. We should have gotten more from a company making billions. And we could have. But we had an inexperienced or crooked party doing the negotiating for us so…
 

Non liberal

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What I do understand.... is that you don't work for your Local, Joint Council, or the IBT.
So I’m just supposed to keep my mouth shut even though I’m a paying dues member? I don’t think so bud. This isn’t communist China. Even though the union would probably like it to be.
 

Thebrownblob

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Lol, I understand that just fine. It doesn’t make it true. Either side. You can figure out for yourself a 3.3% annual raise isn’t sufficient. Especially with the inflation we are enduring. Whether or not we can make more a

whether that’s true or not is irrelevant. We should have gotten more from a company making billions. And we could have. But we had an inexperienced or crooked party doing the negotiating for us so…
Perhaps the bar was Low I don’t know. But whether you feel so or not our contract did set the bar. You do realize most of the people who are in negotiations have done it before?, and under the current leader ship pushing them they got a lot more than they ever got? And again at any point the membership could’ve decided it wasn’t enough. The bar was even lowered by getting rid of the 2/3 rule. The people you work with were satisfied it is what it is.
 

Up In Smoke

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Wages and benefits are 70% of most service sector businesses costs. Our current inflation is being driven by those costs as they work through our economy. Chicken and egg arguments.
 

Thebrownblob

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So I’m just supposed to keep my mouth shut even though I’m a paying dues member? I don’t think so bud. This isn’t communist China. Even though the union would probably like it to be.
No one asked you to keep your mouth shut lol that’s silly. I’ve never met a union member who is quiet. šŸ˜‚ but just like you even if they’re not happy they don’t quit because they know it’s better here than anywhere else.
 
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UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Wages and benefits are 70% of most service sector businesses costs. Our current inflation is being driven by those costs as they work through our economy. Chicken and egg arguments.
Our inflation is being driven by fuel prices. I guess you’re a Bidenomics guy. Inflation was up last month. Oil is at 90 a barrel. The fed can raise rates and inflation may come down, but the price of goods as the are now will never come down unless fuel comes down.
 

Non liberal

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No one asked you to keep your mouth shut lol that’s silly. I’ve never met a union member who is quiet. šŸ˜‚ but just like you even if they’re not happy they don’t quit because they know it’s better here than anywhere else.
Maybe so, but irrelevant. We should have gotten more. Not sure how many times it needs to be said. We had a golden opportunity that we’ll never have again.
 

Up In Smoke

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Our inflation is being driven by fuel prices. I guess you’re a Bidenomics guy. Inflation was up last month. Oil is at 90 a barrel. The fed can raise rates and inflation may come down, but the price of goods as the are now will never come down unless fuel comes down.
We've had fuel prices this high and higher dozens of times without inflation. We haven't seen a wage growth period like this in 40 years. Who thought they would see starting wages at fast food and retail stores over $20 an hour plus benefits. Not in my lifetime.
 

Non liberal

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Perhaps the bar was Low I don’t know. But whether you feel so or not our contract did set the bar. You do realize most of the people who are in negotiations have done it before?, and under the current leader ship pushing them they got a lot more than they ever got? And again at any point the membership could’ve decided it wasn’t enough. The bar was even lowered by getting rid of the 2/3 rule. The people you work with were satisfied it is what it is.
But this was the time for money. To hell with the other :censored2:. Everyone should have gotten a lot more money. Get the other language next time. You won’t get money next time, guaranteed!
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
We've had fuel prices this high and higher dozens of times without inflation. We haven't seen a wage growth period like this in 40 years. Who thought they would see starting wages at fast food and retail stores over $20 an hour plus benefits. Not in my lifetime.
We haven’t had idiots like these running us into the ground before either. Between the outrageous spending bills, covid payments and fuel prices, this is unsustainable. The country is going bankrupt. Oh and tax revenue was down too. Drill more oil, prices will come down.
 
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Thebrownblob

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But this was the time for money. To hell with the other :censored2:. Everyone should have gotten a lot more money. Get the other language next time. You won’t get money next time, guaranteed!
OK, but people voted for it, overwhelmingly. Most people were satisfied, and or did not want to potentially walk a picket line. When you started working at UPS, whether you realize it or not, you threw your lot in with the rest of us, we don’t all get to decide on our own. We do it as a group.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
OK, but people voted for it, overwhelmingly. Most people were satisfied, and or did not want to potentially walk a picket line. When you started working at UPS, whether you realize it or not, you threw your lot in with the rest of us, we don’t all get to decide on our own. We do it as a group.
There’s no ā€œIā€ in teamsters. Lol
 
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