Question about a termination.

[542thruNthru]

This dude was trying to be a tough guy and failed.
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Leave poor faceplant alone.

He feels like he's being picked on.

 

[Brownslave688]

Time for my derail...

I have heard this many times but our steward and center seem to not know anything about it. Know where it came from so I can plaster it all over the building and then wipe my ass with the extra sheets.

I thought it came from national grievance panel or some arbitration. Educate me if I'm wrong.

But what are the donkey DOK questions and answers.

I’m dying to know.

 

[scooby0048]

There was a national level decision that knowing dok is not a condition of employment.

This was possibly in 2007 or so yes?

Things might have changed since then. I remember reading some case briefs from a lawsuit that a feeder filed regarding being terminated for not knowing his DOK. In short, the company gave him paid opportunity to learn it and he failed or refused to learn the DOK. His termination was upheld.

 

[Wally]

Leave poor faceplant alone.

He feels like he's being picked on.

Not picking on him at all.

 

[Wally]

 

[Brownslave688]

This was possibly in 2007 or so yes?

Things might have changed since then. I remember reading some case briefs from a lawsuit that a feeder filed regarding being terminated for not knowing his DOK. In short, the company gave him paid opportunity to learn it and he failed or refused to learn the DOK. His termination was upheld.

What if you have a learning disability.

 

[UrFellowUpser]

I didn't know keter had that much pull. I just thought they was like a third party service or something

 

[burrheadd]

I’d they got a little overzealous with the DOK I’d flash my circle of liars patch on my sleeve at them

They’d find somebody else to screw with

 

[scooby0048]

What if you have a learning disability.

I believe that was what the driver was claiming. It seems pretty sketchy that he lost the suit and I think there were some other underlying issues.
Even though I am somewhat knowledgeable in law and legal issues, I can't remember all the cases I read and this is one of them. Getting old sucks. Hopefully someone can answer both our questions.

 

[Jkloc420]

There was a air driver fired today for refusing to recite dok questions to a ketter auditor can the union get his job back?

he should of said the pledge of alliance

 

[Indecisi0n]

Time for my derail...

I have heard this many times but our steward and center seem to not know anything about it. Know where it came from so I can plaster it all over the building and then wipe my ass with the extra sheets.

I thought it came from national grievance panel or some arbitration. Educate me if I'm wrong.

Give your center manager a copy of the contract and ask him to find it . It's not in there . They went after him because it sounds like he came off like a dixhkead . He should have just said he doesn't remember them .

 

[Brownslave688]

I believe that was what the driver was claiming. It seems pretty sketchy that he lost the suit and I think there were some other underlying issues.
Even though I am somewhat knowledgeable in law and legal issues, I can't remember all the cases I read and this is one of them. Getting old sucks. Hopefully someone can answer both our questions.

I mean as long as he could drive and not hit anything and prove he had working knowledge.


There had to be other issues.

 

[scooby0048]

But what are the donkey DOK questions and answers.

I’m dying to know.

These I know verbatim.
The acronym is...
friend
U
K
U
P
S

 

[Wally]

he should of said the pledge of alliance

Alliance? Sounds like a WWE tag team?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Maybe @BigUnionGuy can help you

It was agreed in 2007 at the National Panel, it is not a condition of

continued employment.


This comes up.... like every year.

 

[scooby0048]

I mean as long as he could drive and not hit anything and prove he had working knowledge.


There had to be other issues.

Ok, I can still remember how to look up case law.

Here's the case. Long and full of legal jargon but an interesting read none the less.

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0483n-06.pdf

 

[scooby0048]

This comes up.... like every year.

Yes, it does, but every year no one can seem to come up with the docket # or transcript minutes of the hearing to lay this to rest. So I'm sure it will keep coming up.

 

[Faceplanted]

It was agreed in 2007 at the National Panel, it is not a condition of

continued employment.


This comes up.... like every year.

It’s sad that one of our shop stewards tells us on a weekly basis that we can be terminated for not knowing dok even after I made him aware of the decision.

 

[Jkloc420]

Alliance? Sounds like a WWE tag team?

yep, he was trying to call @Future

 

[Misthios]

And I last 25 seconds on Tuesday, so shove it.

Damn!!!! Could she walk afterwards?