Question about a termination.

[burrheadd]

Yes, it does, but every year no one can seem to come up with the docket # or transcript minutes of the hearing to lay this to rest. So I'm sure it will keep coming up.

You’d think the IBT would have an archive of previously decided cases.

I’am sure they do but not available to the peons that pay their wages

@BigUnionGuy care to respond

 

[ManInBrown]

There was a air driver fired today for refusing to recite dok questions to a ketter auditor can the union get his job back?

No chance that sticks. You can’t be fired for anything related to reciting the DOK

 

[Fuzzy Brown]

There was a air driver fired today for refusing to recite dok questions to a ketter auditor can the union get his job back?

Of course they did it’s called insubordination.
I recommend this person use the time off to study the DOK because if he can’t recite it he’s driven his last mile.

 

[UrFellowUpser]

No chance that sticks. You can’t be fired for anything related to reciting the DOK

He comes across as being so ditzy i dont think he will fight it or know how too, but in all honesty i think he didn't know how severe the situation was going to be when he did that.

 

[Box Ox]

No chance that sticks. You can’t be fired for anything related to reciting the DOK

Right. Which is why the air diver should have tried rather than refusing outright.

 

[Box Ox]

i think he didn't know how severe the situation was going to be when he did that.

That’s a management failure if drivers aren’t aware.

 

[UrFellowUpser]

I just know when i recited it word for word to them like i was at integrad they just looked at me crazy like what did i just do. I think they expect the short version

 

[MyTripisCut]

Damn!!!! Could she walk afterwards?

Yeah. It was a joke ya ing jobroni.

 

[Wally]

And I last 25 seconds on Tuesday, so shove it.

 

[clean hairy]

As long as I'm getting paid I'll try all they want.

Even if it takes 45 min to sort of figure out the right answer!

 

[clean hairy]

And I last 25 seconds on Tuesday, so shove it.

You sure do put a Minuteman to shame!

 

[MyTripisCut]

You sure do put a Minuteman to shame!

 

[scratch]

I got a warning letter once because I couldn't remember it word for word and I made the mistake of telling the auditor what I really thought about it. He didn't seem to have a sense of humor about my reply. I should have grieved the letter but I really just didn't care. You are supposed to try to answer, it's not smart to refuse. I have 29 years of safe driving now.

 

[tadpole]

They have to say I am instructing you to _____ . You know when they say that, that there will be consequences for not doing what they say.

 

[RolloTony Brown Town]

Ok, I can still remember how to look up case law.

Here's the case. Long and full of legal jargon but an interesting read none the less.

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0483n-06.pdf

Both the on road supervisor and driver in this scenario sound like children.

 

[Covemastah]

And I last 25 seconds on Tuesday, so shove it.

I gave her the other 35 seconds !!
Glad I could help !!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You’d think the IBT would have an archive of previously decided cases.

Every Local gets a copy of the National docket and decisions.

I’am sure they do but not available to the peons that pay their wages

It's as easy as driving down to the Union Hall, and asking to see a copy.

Yes, it does, but every year no one can seem to come up with the docket # or transcript minutes of the hearing to lay this to rest.

You would have to pay for a transcript.

Of course they did it’s called insubordination.
I recommend this person use the time off to study the DOK because if he can’t recite it he’s driven his last mile.

BS.

I have a copy of a signed off grievance.... from a Local level grievance hearing.

In fact, every Steward in my Local has a copy of it on their phone.



-Bug-