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BadIdeaGuy

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Netsua 3:16

AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
Here’s what’s been on my mind:
-Capitalism works. I believe in the American capitalist dream; it enables us to be free and live comfortable, full lives: all we have to do is find a decent job and keep it.
-We have failed to maintain a balanced capitalist society; we have allowed all of our money to be hoarded by a small percentage of people; big business, elected officials, etc. Hell, for all we know, zillions of our tax dollars are hiding in sketchy off shore accounts. We have allowed our leaders to pull the rug over our head.
-Capitalism works....but just as anything else in life, it requires balance.
-The stimulus, in my eyes, is a shift towards more balanced capitalism. In the same vein as “the new deal,” which stabilized the economy and helped more Americans prosper than ever; the booming 50’s were a great example of a proper capitalist society.

What I’m trying to figure out....is why would any average American worker, conservative, liberal, whatever....
Why would ANY average American want to WILLINGLY limit benefits to fellow average Americans, when we have allowed our elected officials to suck us dry for the last 40 or so years?
Conservatives specifically; you desire less government, right? So why do you want to continue empowering the government to hoard our money however they see fit; instead of making them fix what they friend’ed up in the first place???
Wages have failed to increase with inflation; and thus, the stimulus is necessary for many Americans working 40+ hours a week who still struggle to keep the lights on...because rent is exorbitant all across the country.
 

BadIdeaGuy

Moderator
Staff member
Here’s what’s been on my mind:
-Capitalism works. I believe in the American capitalist dream; it enables us to be free and live comfortable, full lives: all we have to do is find a decent job and keep it.
-We have failed to maintain a balanced capitalist society; we have allowed all of our money to be hoarded by a small percentage of people; big business, elected officials, etc. Hell, for all we know, zillions of our tax dollars are hiding in sketchy off shore accounts. We have allowed our leaders to pull the rug over our head.
-Capitalism works....but just as anything else in life, it requires balance.
-The stimulus, in my eyes, is a shift towards more balanced capitalism. In the same vein as “the new deal,” which stabilized the economy and helped more Americans prosper than ever; the booming 50’s were a great example of a proper capitalist society.

What I’m trying to figure out....is why would any average American worker, conservative, liberal, whatever....
Why would ANY average American want to WILLINGLY limit benefits to fellow average Americans, when we have allowed our elected officials to suck us dry for the last 40 or so years?
Conservatives specifically; you desire less government, right? So why do you want to continue empowering the government to hoard our money however they see fit; instead of making them fix what they friend’ed up in the first place???
Wages have failed to increase with inflation; and thus, the stimulus is necessary for many Americans working 40+ hours a week who still struggle to keep the lights on...because rent is exorbitant all across the country.
I would argue your premise.

One of the biggest issues with our society, and one that no one EVER seems to talk about, is lifestyle creep.
As we earn more money, we start spending more money.

The result of that is that we end up with so many things that we consider "essentials" that 50 years ago would have been considered absurd luxuries.

Almost all of my coworkers making 14 dollars an hour have a phone that costs 600+ dollars. Easily.
You wouldn't find that in the 50s.

Back then, the luxury was having central air.
You'd be considered sub poverty these days if you didn't have air conditioning.

How about riding lawn mowers?
I see so many people riding those in city lots. Not handicapped. Just lazy.

How about eating out?
More than 1 in 3 Americans eat fast food in a given day, CDC finds
More than 1/3 of Americans eat out daily.
Yes I know there are dollar menus. But I can personally attest to eating a homemade peanut butter sandwich being much cheaper.

I don't think quality of life has decreased.
I think we just focus our money and efforts on all the wrong things.
And it's fine. People can do with their money what they want. It just isn't fair for them to complain about where their life choices have taken them, afterward.
 

Netsua 3:16

AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
I would argue your premise.

One of the biggest issues with our society, and one that no one EVER seems to talk about, is lifestyle creep.
As we earn more money, we start spending more money.

The result of that is that we end up with so many things that we consider "essentials" that 50 years ago would have been considered absurd luxuries.

Almost all of my coworkers making 14 dollars an hour have a phone that costs 600+ dollars. Easily.
You wouldn't find that in the 50s.

Back then, the luxury was having central air.
You'd be considered sub poverty these days if you didn't have air conditioning.

How about riding lawn mowers?
I see so many people riding those in city lots. Not handicapped. Just lazy.

How about eating out?
More than 1 in 3 Americans eat fast food in a given day, CDC finds
More than 1/3 of Americans eat out daily.
Yes I know there are dollar menus. But I can personally attest to eating a homemade peanut butter sandwich being much cheaper.

I don't think quality of life has decreased.
I think we just focus our money and efforts on all the wrong things.
And it's fine. People can do with their money what they want. It just isn't fair for them to complain about where their life choices have taken them, afterward.
Average Americans are pretty stupid. That’s not the governments fault.
 
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