Quitting the union...

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by UPSTeamster Pragmatist, Oct 21, 2018.

  1. So you are a management troll, I figured as much
     
  2. BadIdeaGuy

    BadIdeaGuy Don't discriminate against blind preloaders

    Are you high???
     
  3. Yes, but not as stoned out as the guy who thinks he would be better off without a union contract
     
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  4. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    There was talk at one point that mgmt needed a union. To be clear, they do. In operations that is.
     
  5. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    The union peaked during the Papa Hoffa days and has been on a slow deathroll ever since. Baby Hoffa will be viewed in future history books as being the man responsible for the death of the Teamsters.

    A lot of the responsibility has to be shared by ignorant members who were too lazy to vote.
     
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  6. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Unlike senior. All his predecessors had to do maintenance.
     
  7. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    I was second in my class, and full academic scholarship. After a year of school, I had my first daughter and became a stay at home mom until my husband died. So no piece of paper, but would happily compare those two scores against anyone on this forum.
     
  8. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Jimmy Sr. would kick Jrs. rear if he was alive today (maybe even have him wacked)
     
  9. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Do you think he could to that from prison?
     
  10. rod

    rod retired and happy

     
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  11. rod

    rod retired and happy


    Sr. was framed for a lot of stuff by the Kennedys. I'm not saying he was an angel but........
     
  12. boxboy13

    boxboy13 New Member

    :censored2: this union. They’re probably in ups’s pocket
     
  13. It is so ironic. Working as a union employee complaining that its better to not have one and that other non union companies are better. Why on earth would a person then not quit and go work for those better companies? Less complaining opportunities?
     
  14. It doesn't take a person with a high IQ to know that UPS workers are much better off with a union contract than without one.
     
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  15. But it doesn’t take a genius to see where the union is heading either. If anyone believes they’ll be able to get enough voters under the structure at ups, they’re wrong. The union and company realize this. The only way to get the unions attention is financially, period. In America, that’s the only way to get anyone to listen. So, it’s either blindly sending them money each month while they do whatever they want, or hit them where it hurts. Heads would spin they’d tie the line so fast once they saw their actions being catastrophic to their survival. They work for members. They’ve lost sight of their duty. Are upsers better off under a union contract? Sure. But we earn the wages, benefits and much more. Would another non union company pay us that? Highly doubtful. But that argument is detrimental to the people fighting for everything we deserve. All I’ve seen is settling and surrendering. People pay the union to see them fight in the arena
     
  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Considering that more than half the membership doesn't even care enough

    vote, the IBT took it on the chin and got what they could with little support.



    -Bug-
     
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  17. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    No they didn't.
    The members weren't voting on "support", they were voting on the proposed contract.

    The numbers clearly indicate there were more "NO" votes regardless of any special stigma like 50+1, 2/3.
     
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  18. Benben

    Benben Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!

    OOOOO The bogyman is going to get you if it wasn't for our savior the SuperUnion!

    Care to rethink that?

    I should get paid for continually correcting your lies!
     
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  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Blame Ron Carey and TDU.

    Prior to their involvement, it was a straight 2/3 majority that was needed.


    It's funny, to see TDU cry.... about their "hand" in everything.
     
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  20. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    You are like a child in all that you write.