Refusing to work

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by UpsBro, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. UpsBro

    UpsBro New Member

    Is refusing to work as directed still a fireable offense? 2 people at my hub have done it they didn't get fired nor written up? Then my supervisor said it's not a fireable offense just w9ndering if it still is.
     
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  2. Brisket

    Brisket Well-Known Member

    Refusing to work as directed? Seriously? As long as it isn't against the law ,unsafe, or immoral, do it.
     
  3. UpsBro

    UpsBro New Member

    Nope it's been serious they just don't wanna do it
     
  4. Brisket

    Brisket Well-Known Member

    There's got to be more to this...
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Fireable? Probably not. Sent home for the night? Absolutely.
     
  6. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    Once again it all depends on how much they like you. Everything at UPS depends on that. One guy can pull stops out of his truck and leave them on the belt and its the end of the world. Another (brownnoser) can do the same thing and all they do is find another home for it. I saw it happen dozens of times.
     
  7. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    P.S. EVERYTHING at UPS is a fireable offense. Making it stick is another matter.
     
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  8. UpsBro

    UpsBro New Member

    I'm on the twilight shift my buddy was told to go to another belt and he refused to go cause he didn't feel like going cause he felt like he shouldn't have to go. The other time this happened he came to our belt and refused to work because he felt "sick"
     
  9. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member

    Not any more.
    The OP is a part timer.
    Rod, you would not recognize the place now.
    They can't keep the part timers more than a week.
    They offer them a $200 bonus per week that they stay (seriously).
    They give them pizza one night, wings the next.
    UPS is happy if they show up 4 nights a week, and they work like Mrs Wiggins
    They work when they want, as slow as they want.
     
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  10. LeadBelly

    LeadBelly Banned

    Work as directed ( unless it's unsafe) and grieve later, if it's a violation of the contract. Other than that , if you go all cowboy or cowgirl then your ba will have to try and get you back.
     
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  11. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    And don't forget checking their smartphones every 10 minutes. And managers used to tell me I was stealing time by taking a drink of water. Twilight sort manager Friday was telling me everyone they hired in May has already quit because of the heat. Temps next week are projected to be in the upper 90's.
     
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  12. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    If your safety is at risk, you can refuse under OSHA. Otherwise, work.
     
  13. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain IE boogeyman

    discipline isn't an automated thing

    if you have lazy sups who don't want to enforce discipline, well there it is
     
  14. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    We all know PT sups aren't allowed to do anything so you must be talking about FT sups or managers. Of course they know if they try to enforce discipline they (the manager) will be working the unload. I saw it happen last Friday on Twi.
     
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  15. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain IE boogeyman

    that's not why they avoid it, in a lot of cases a sup would rather do the manual work than the mental effort of being a real sup
     
  16. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Obviously you are not talking about an experienced FT sup. At my building management would just instruct a PT sup to work while a high seniority hourly watches. They call it training.
     
  17. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"



    Gee----that sounds like fun. I guess that's what is deserved after giving everyone a participation trophy and making it a crime for you or teachers to lay a hand on your kid if they are out of control.
     
  18. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Or wanting to pay paper boy delivery wages for a Union job. I respect the young guys for not accepting slave wages for a Union job. Working right next to a guy earning $30 or $35/hr doing the same job.
     
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  19. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"


    I can certainly understand that. Maybe some day PT will get their act together and actually ban together and vote to better their situation---------but I doubt it.
     
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  20. We are getting fed up with low pay