religion

[Integrity]

Is that why if you saw a man molesting a child, or a man raping a woman, you wouldn't try to stop it?

No. That is not the reason.

I believe you ask insincere questions with the sole intent of trapping me.

I don’t know why it is in your heart to do this. I don’t know what I’ve ever done to you that has caused you to be against me so.

May you experience the love of God in your heart and soul today and always!!

 

[tourists24]

I am not telling you what you should believe or what you shouldn’t believe. I believe religion in any form is not God.

However, I love much about religion and religious practices, I do find many, but not all, very useful in my spiritual walk with God, as I believe in Him.

I believe God is previous to everything, I believe God so loves the world, I believe God is sovereign over everything that was, is, and ever will be. I believe nothing, absolutely nothing happens in God‘s world by mistake.

I believe that the moment when, in my innermost self, I surrendered to God’s love for me, and all that means in the depth of my mind, being, and spirit, I became able to turn my will and my life over to His care. That was the day I was reborn, into a new creation.

I believe that there is a bit of good in the worst of us and a bit of bad in the best of us; that we are all children of God and we each have a right to be here. When I complain about me or about you, I am complaining about God‘s handiwork. I’m saying I know better than God.

Over the years I have come to find that without God’s Holy Spirit in me, I truly don’t even know what’s good for me, and if I don’t know what’s good for me then I don’t know what’s good or bad for you or for anyone so I’m better off if I don’t give advice, don’t figure I know what’s best and just accept life on life terms, life on God’s , as I understand God, terms.

Today I accept myself, and I accept you, and I accept the whole world as it actually is not as I would have it. Today I so love the world as God loves the world as it actually is not as I would have it.

May you experience, in your innermost being, and conscience, unconditional love in your life today and every lasting moment you have left in it. Regardless of what you believe.

Now that’s a straight forward response. I love hearing people’s testimony stories. You do have it in you lol.

 

[vantexan]

No. That is not the reason.

I believe you ask insincere questions with the sole intent of trapping me.

I don’t know why it is in your heart to do this. I don’t know what I’ve ever done to you that has caused you to be against me so.

May you experience the love of God in your heart and soul today and always!!

Because your logic is flawed. If nothing happens by mistake then God wants men to commit evil acts. You've admitted in the past that you wouldn't interfere. You have to say that to uphold your belief that nothing happens by mistake. It wouldn't happen if God didn't want it to happen so don't try to stop it. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of free will. And why is it insincere to ask you a question? Wouldn't happen if God didn't want me to ask, right?

 

[Integrity]

Because your logic is flawed. If nothing happens by mistake then God wants men to commit evil acts. You've admitted in the past that you wouldn't interfere. You have to say that to uphold your belief that nothing happens by mistake. It wouldn't happen if God didn't want it to happen so don't try to stop it. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of free will. And why is it insincere to ask you a question? Wouldn't happen if God didn't want me to ask, right?

I don’t see how it is flawed logic as you do.

I believe God does not want man to make mistakes yet he allows them anyway. I believe this is not a mistake.

 

[vantexan]

I don’t see how it is flawed logic as you do.

I believe God does not want man to make mistakes yet he allows them anyway. I believe this is not a mistake.

Nice try. Nothing happens unless God wants it to. That has been your stand. Do you think your larger size as a man is meaningless? God wants you to protect women and children.

 

[Integrity]

Nice try. Nothing happens unless God wants it to. That has been your stand. Do you think your larger size as a man is meaningless? God wants you to protect women and children.

You clearly do not know how to reconcile the doctrine of the sovereign will of God with the permissive will of God.

I can certainly understand why you struggle with my belief about this topic.

Do you believe God is your Heavenly Father?

 

[Thebrownblob]

You clearly do not know how to reconcile the doctrine of the sovereign will of God with the permissive will of God.

I can certainly understand why you struggle with my belief about this topic.

Do you believe God is your Heavenly Father?

 

[vantexan]

You clearly do not know how to reconcile the doctrine of the sovereign will of God with the permissive will of God.

I can certainly understand why you struggle with my belief about this topic.

Do you believe God is your Heavenly Father?

And you clearly make it up as you go. Or someone else has and you buy into it. God doesn't allow men to do evil then saves them anyways. There's a price to be paid for evil acts. In both our judicial system in this life and an eternity in hell for those who refuse to change. There is no shrugging.and saying it wouldn't happen if God didn't want it to. Any man who wouldn't do his best to stop harm happening to others is a pathetic worm.

 

[Integrity]

And you clearly make it up as you go. Or someone else has and you buy into it. God doesn't allow men to do evil then saves them anyways. There's a price to be paid for evil acts. In both our judicial system in this life and an eternity in hell for those who refuse to change. There is no shrugging.and saying it wouldn't happen if God didn't want it to. Any man who wouldn't do his best to stop harm happening to others is a pathetic worm.

Do you know God is your Heavenly Father?

 

[vantexan]

Do you know God is your Heavenly Father?

I certainly do. Why are you avoiding what I posted?

 

[Integrity]

I certainly do. Why are you avoiding what I posted?

Praying for you friend!!

 

[vantexan]

Praying for you friend!!

More like preying.

 

[Integrity]

More like preying.

You are too much!

God’s will be done not mine!

 

[vantexan]

You are too much!

God’s will be done not mine!

Is it God's will to not stop evil doers?

 

[Integrity]

Is it God's will to not stop evil doers?

Speaking only of my understanding of the sovereign will of God, not that of the permissive will of God or commanded will of God, I say it is the sovereign will of God to stop all evil doers who are stopped and not stop those who are not stopped.

I believe nothing absolutely nothing happens in God‘s world by mistake.

His will be done, not mine!

Furthermore the Bible also teaches that Jesus taught "do not resist evil" in the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5:39. This teaching is part of Jesus's instructions to his disciples on how to live a righteous life.

 

[Integrity]

Have you ever said to God ?

Here I am God take me and all my troubles and do anything you want with me, I surrender to you now and forever.

 

[vantexan]

Speaking only of my understanding of the sovereign will of God, not that of the permissive will of God or commanded will of God, I say it is the sovereign will of God to stop all evil doers who are stopped and not stop those who are not stopped.

I believe nothing absolutely nothing happens in God‘s world by mistake.

His will be done, not mine!

Furthermore the Bible also teaches that Jesus taught "do not resist evil" in the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5:39. This teaching is part of Jesus's instructions to his disciples on how to live a righteous life.

And yet he physically drove the merchants and money changers out of the Temple. I saw a Catholic priest on tv explain what turning the other cheek meant in that verse. He said someone of higher station would show their dominance by slapping someone with their left hand on the person's right cheek. By turning their left cheek towards the person of higher station he couldn't strike them again with his left hand. He'd have to use his right hand which would signify the person being slapped was of equal station. It was an act of defiance. Don't fight back, stand your ground, let the perpetrator know you are his equal.

Of course you'll totally disagree with that but then having a cultural context is important when understanding the Bible. Something that people who study the Scriptures put a lot of stock in.

And not fighting back against those who harm you isn't the same as not stopping someone from hurting others. Any grown man who refuses to stop a woman from being raped, or beaten, or stop the harming of a child, is a pathetic excuse for a human being.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Have you ever said to God ?

Here I am God take me and all my troubles and do anything you want with me, I surrender to you now and forever.

Have you?

 

[Integrity]

Have you?

Yes.

 

[Integrity]

And yet he physically drove the merchants and money changers out of the Temple. I saw a Catholic priest on tv explain what turning the other cheek meant in that verse. He said someone of higher station would show their dominance by slapping someone with their left hand on the person's right cheek. By turning their left cheek towards the person of higher station he couldn't strike them again with his left hand. He'd have to use his right hand which would signify the person being slapped was of equal station. It was an act of defiance. Don't fight back, stand your ground, let the perpetrator know you are his equal.

Of course you'll totally disagree with that but then having a cultural context is important when understanding the Bible. Something that people who study the Scriptures put a lot of stock in.

And not fighting back against those who harm you isn't the same as not stopping someone from hurting others. Any grown man who refuses to stop a woman from being raped, or beaten, or stop the harming of a child, is a pathetic excuse for a human being.

I will pray for the measure by which you judge yourself, my friend!

May you sense and experience God’s nearness and presence in your life today and always!

How does continuing to harp on a hypothetical situation that you created and you twist help you, my friend?