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[Integrity]

I haven't attended regular in years. I do however run errands for my.dad, sister, and nieces so if you're trying to suggest I'm some recluse you'd be wrong. I spend most afternoons down at McDonald's where they know me by name. Good internet, good music, and good air conditioning. Yes, it's an exciting life I lead. But I would never, ever let another person get harmed without attempting to stop it.

Thanks for this post. I appreciate your reply. So your family man, I am as well.

I am married. I’ve been married for 28 years, are you or have you been?

You mention your sister and your nieces, and your dad. It must be nice to live close to them where you can run errands for them. I do live close to my sister and my parents, close enough to visit weekly, but not close enough to run errands for them. I have two brothers who live very far away.

I personally haven’t had McDonald’s in a long time, but I have a very close friend who frequent McDonald’s for the very same reason that you have described. He also comes to my house once a week for dinner.

I certainly respect your decision to act differently than me, perhaps more courageously than me with regards to the hypothetical question that you described on this message board.

Peace be with you!

 

[Integrity]

Why do you feel it’s an entrapping question? And a honest hypothetical morality questions that are a pretty good view and into someone’s character.

When my daughters were younger, and their boyfriends would take them out for a date I would tell those boys take good care of her. Certainly meaning, if my daughters were being assaulted by another man, they would step in and protect them Not merrily stand on the sidelines and call 911.

That’s what they told me they would do and that situation I probably would never allow them to take my daughter out.

Again, I’m not not sure what is entrapment about that question?

I suspect you’re being coy about this, but that is fine. We need message board fodder for these forums to continue

I agree with your post about your daughter.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I suspect you’re being coy about this, but that is fine. We need message board fodder for these forums to continue

I agree with your post about your daughter.

Nope, I’m not trying to be coy. I just don’t understand answer. You’re not required to give me an answer that makes me happy so that’s fine.

I truly do feel @vantexan question was straightforward and doesn’t really have any gotchas. But that’s my opinion.

 

[vantexan]

The context and the hypothetical nature of what’s his face‘s question IMO is just dumb.

I’ll stick with 911 in this specific situation.

I hope he is getting what he needs from it.

I suspect the van man has the BC as his only place of fellowship with other people I suspect he doesn’t attend a church or other community groups.

I asked he but he won’t answer.

The point of this exercise is you talk a good game but in the every day realities of life your message comes up short. You've said a number of times that nothing happens unless God wants it to. So to uphold that belief you wouldn't come to the aid of someone being harmed because it wouldn't be happening if it wasn't God's will. Think about that. All the slaughter in wars, all the robberies at gun point, all the harm caused children by sexually depraved individuals, the list is endless....is God's will according to you. You don't take into account free will and the judgement of the choices we make in life. You say all those people doing evil things will all go to Heaven anyways but Christianity is about turning away from evil, from sin, in order to save one's soul. Do souls need to be saved or are they saved no matter what individuals choose to do?

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Galatians 6:7

 

[Integrity]

The point of this exercise is you talk a good game but in the every day realities of life your message comes up short. You've said a number of times that nothing happens unless God wants it to. So to uphold that belief you wouldn't come to the aid of someone being harmed because it wouldn't be happening if it wasn't God's will. Think about that. All the slaughter in wars, all the robberies at gun point, all the harm caused children by sexually depraved individuals, the list is endless....is God's will according to you. You don't take into account free will and the judgement of the choices we make in life. You say all those people doing evil things will all go to Heaven anyways but Christianity is about turning away from evil, from sin, in order to save one's soul. Do souls need to be saved or are they saved no matter what individuals choose to do?

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Galatians 6:7

Is it not my choice to intervene in any way I want even if it is only to call 911?

 

[vantexan]

Is it not my choice to intervene in any way I want even if it is only to call 911?

Yes, but doesn't mean every choice is the right choice. You will be judged accordingly.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Is it not my choice to intervene in any way I want even if it is only to call 911?

I suppose it is but honestly, I don’t even think you could restrain yourself if you saw something like that I believe you would intervene in someway. It’s just a natural reaction. I would believe that a good person would do.

 

[Integrity]

Yes, but doesn't mean every choice is the right choice. You will be judged accordingly.

Will I be judged by you?

 

[Integrity]

I suppose it is but honestly, I don’t even think you could restrain yourself if you saw something like that I believe you would intervene in someway. It’s just a natural reaction. I would believe that a good person would do.

In the context given in his hypothetical question I have given the answer that I believe is the best.

I respect your opinion to answer the hypothetical question differently.

 

[Thebrownblob]

In the context given in his hypothetical question I have given the answer that I believe is the best.

I respect your opinion to answer the hypothetical question differently.

I bet you would judo chop that guy. I think you’re just giving. @vantexan the business.

 

[Integrity]

Yes, but doesn't mean every choice is the right choice. You will be judged accordingly.

Your statement about every choice not being the right choice, is this simple concept a mistake of God’s

 

[Integrity]

I bet you would judo chop that guy. I think you’re just giving. @vantexan the business.

My answer might change if the context of the hypothetical question was different, I believe the hypothetical question was stupid.

 

[vantexan]

Your statement about every choice not being the right choice, is this simple concept a mistake of God’s

No, because God gives us free will and judges us accordingly.

 

[Thebrownblob]

My answer might change if the context of the hypothetical question was different, I believe the hypothetical question was stupid.

Ok I understand

 

[vantexan]

My answer might change if the context of the hypothetical question was different, I believe the hypothetical question was stupid.

Do you think women being raped or beaten never happens?

 

[Thebrownblob]

No, because God gives us free will and judges us accordingly.

Yep, I believe there is a right wrong not always gray. Obviously in your hypothetical question if a man was too abuse a woman that way he would be wrong so there must be a right.

 

[vantexan]

Will I be judged by you?

My judgement isn't the one that matters.

 

[Integrity]

No, because God gives us free will and judges us accordingly.

So God’s giving us free will is not a mistake of God’s?

 

[Integrity]

Yep, I believe there is a right wrong not always gray. Obviously in your hypothetical question if a man was too abuse a woman that way he would be wrong so there must be a right.

Is this a mistake of God’s?

 

[Thebrownblob]

So God’s giving us free will is not a mistake of God’s?

It’s not a mistake, but I hope and pray that he gives me the courage and wisdom to make the right choices when my time comes