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Integrity

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It doesn't matter what you believe. Isn't what's important what the individual believes? How dare you question my spirituality.
My belief only comes from God apart from God I have no belief.

Yes.

I already apologized. If you see spirituality the way you described in your previous post I do not stand in your way, question, or judge your spirituality.

God will reveal what he wants to reveal to you, as He enables you to understand.
 

tourists24

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My belief only comes from God apart from God I have no belief.

Yes.

I already apologized. If you see spirituality the way you described in your previous post I do not stand in your way, question, or judge your spirituality.

God will reveal what he wants to reveal to you, as He enables you to understand.
Is it your belief that a person can walk his life with the Holy Spirit without using the bible as a reference for guidance?
 

Integrity

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Is it your belief that a person can walk his life with the Holy Spirit without using the bible as a reference for guidance?
That is not my experience but yes I do believe that a person can walk his life with the Holy Spirit without using the bible as a reference for guidance?

I believe experience, observation, and history of all Creation supports this belief.
 

tourists24

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That is not my experience but yes I do believe that a person can walk his life with the Holy Spirit without using the bible as a reference for guidance?

I believe experience, observation, and history of all Creation supports this belief.
We do part ways on this reasoning. How would anyone even know who God truly is? And why would a person even see the need to have a relationship with Him? How would they even know what salvation is and why we need it? Could they not simply invent their own version of a god and make the same claims? It creates quite the rabbit hole
 

Integrity

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We do part ways on this reasoning. How would anyone even know who God truly is? And why would a person even see the need to have a relationship with Him? How would they even know what salvation is and why we need it? Could they not simply invent their own version of a god and make the same claims? It creates quite the rabbit hole
Do you not know the history of the Bible?

The knowledge of God is dependent on the Bible?

A person’s need to have a relationship with God is dependent on the Bible?

A person salvation is dependent upon the Bible?

God will reveal who he is to whoever he wants to reveal himself to. God’s revelation is not dependent on the Bible.

The Bible and usefulness is dependent on God as he enables.

All authority has been given to Jesus not to the Bible.
 

tourists24

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Do you not know the history of the Bible?

The knowledge of God is dependent on the Bible?

A person’s need to have a relationship with God is dependent on the Bible?

A person salvation is dependent upon the Bible?

God will reveal who he is to whoever he wants to reveal himself to. God’s relation is not dependent on the Bible.

The Bible and usefulness is dependent on God as he enables.

All authority has been given to Jesus not to the Bible.
I don't believe God is dependent on the bible, but I do feel man needs it as sort of an owner's manual. We are too sinful by nature to do it on our own. God gives us a free will to discover faith or reject it. It's the reason our history is one of success and defeat in the Old Testament history. If it were as simple as you put it then God could just simply reveal Himself to everyone and there would be no need for Jesus on earth or even salvation
 

Integrity

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I don't believe God is dependent on the bible, but I do feel man needs it as sort of an owner's manual. We are too sinful by nature to do it on our own. God gives us a free will to discover faith or reject it. It's the reason our history is one of success and defeat in the Old Testament history. If it were as simple as you put it then God could just simply reveal Himself to everyone and there would be no need for Jesus on earth or even salvation
You say you believe God Is not dependent on the Bible so you believe God can reach a person without the use of the Bible, correct?
 

Thebrownblob

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You say you believe God Is not dependent on the Bible so you believe God can reach a person without the use of the Bible, correct?
We understand God is sovereign could do anything, but he doesn’t do things that he says he will not do.

The Bible is the roadmap for Christians if you’re not following ( or at least acknowledging you should be and trying) it, you’re lost
 

tourists24

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You say you believe God Is not dependent on the Bible so you believe God can reach a person without the use of the Bible, correct?
I believe that He can definitely put that pull in someone's heart that can lead people to Him. But even after salvation a person is still so prone to sinning that there needs to be something there to help guide that life. If the bible wasn't part of that guidance then someone could just justify anything that makes them feel right.
 

Integrity

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We understand God is sovereign could do anything, but he doesn’t do things that he says he will not do.

The Bible is the roadmap for Christians if you’re not following ( or at least acknowledging you should be and trying) it, you’re lost
Who is the subject of the preposition “we“ in your statement?

You mean to say that you believe he doesn’t do the things that you believe the Bible says he does.

Living by the spirit of Jesus is not bound by the Bible Jesus’s life and spirit prove this.

Jesus is Lord not the Bible.
 
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