BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
An enigma is not how I would describe NoIntegrity.
Define "full determination."
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Define "full determination."
Integrity
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I believe in free will!
I believe God put exactly what he wanted in the Bible, I believe nothing is in the Bible by mistake, even the mistakes.
Integrity
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Integrity
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I guess you answered your own question.
God’s ways are not our ways.
All praise to God above all!
FromOffTheStreets
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He doesn't step into our lives in the way he did in their lives, burning bushes & what not. But look at Joseph for example, things moved in a way that ended up preserving the Hebrew race. Joseph was moved outside of his will to a place that God prepared for him.
Paul tells us in romans 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose."
He retrieves the lost sheep.
Its not all X's & O's, ground work needs to be done to be able to recieve the Word of truth. In a home the ground work can't be seen until you enter the home and see the basement or the slab. You can't enter the person & peak into the soul. Only the Lord can & only the Lord can pull them to safety. (John 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him)
He draws us in to receive him. You don't do it on your own. The weight to carry the burden is too heavy for us.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
You still have not answered.
How does he draw you? When he "draws" you to receive him, how do you know? What happens to you that you know all this happens?
FromOffTheStreets
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Acts 13:48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
According to this, by appointment.
Romans 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.
According to this, foreknowledge.
John 6:45 Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.
According to this, a still small voice.
You know because your heart soul & mind have been transformed into true belief.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
A small still voice? You believe this is what these passages teach? Before I counter, I need to know...
What did the small still voice say to you?
Does God speak to everyone in this way?
FromOffTheStreets
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There isn't audible speaking taking place or "hearing voices." It's a spiritual connection.
I'm not going to take the time to list all of the verses dealing with the spirit indwelling and working in the believers, but You don't believe in the indwelling of the spirit so you wouldn't understand.
I do agree with you that the Word is the primary vehicle of the spirit. But the receiver has to be turned on to be able to comprehend
Then you're saying that unless the Holy Spirit "turns on" a person he can't become a Christian?
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
So the small still voice that you claim is taught in the verses you listed, isn't a voice at all. And you "can't explain"the "spiritual connection"? Sounds like you and NoIntegrity have a lot in common. Sounds goofy.
There is definitely a spiritual connection taught in scripture, Eph.1 and a zillion other passages.
I don't believe in the indwelling of the Holy Spirit? Sorry, pal. I believe the Spirit indwells in every Christian. I've stated this numerous times. The scripture is very plain about this. It's how he dwells that we differ (and the scripture is very plain about this). Don't try to pass off your inability to explain how these verses mean a "small still voice" that you now have said is a voice that is inaudible because of something you claim I believe.
Turned on? How about this... "Faith comes from hearing and hearing comes from the word of God." Nothing there about an inaudible small still voice. Just solid forthright teaching from the word of God.
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Integrity
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Yes, turned on by faith.
Integrity
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Must you be so obtuse?
BrownFlush
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Thebrownblob
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That show was so inappropriate it’s hilarious.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Is it me, or does that sound like some kind of super natural help that just can't be put into words?
Could this be some kind of irresistible grace? I mean, once the Holy Spirit is whispering in your ear, your free will has to be out the door.
I wonder...If the Holy Spirit doesn't whisper in everyone's ear, only the ones he has decided, how is it possible that the scriptures teach that Jesus died for all? That doesn't sound much like a just God.
Oh well, in the meantime, I'll be praying for that"small still voice" that's not an audible voice, and hope I'm one of the lucky ones he picks.
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FromOffTheStreets
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Rev. 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
Is he physically knocking on the door of your home? Or is there something spiritual going on?
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
What does he use to knock?
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