UPSER1987
Well-Known Member
Must be a Stewart...lolOnly the best and the brightest...
Must be a Stewart...lolOnly the best and the brightest...
Perhaps "Stew B's" real name is Dennis Taylor.
SATRUDAY is not a valid workday.
This SatRuday was....interesting.Last year, manager told us Tues-Sat folk that Monday was mandatory for peak. I went to HR and was told that they cannot force us to come in Monday.
I have another job so I was stressed about the situation.
So now, my building did same as you describe, handed out sheet on Wed. before Thanksgiving.
Not sure anymore what to do..no HR..and I dont trust our union to have teeth.View attachment 319208
hey buddy don’t bite my styleSATRUDAY is not a valid workday.
SATRUDAY used to be the best day of the week.hey buddy don’t bite my style
Does your supplement have language regarding a 6th and 7th punch ?
There's no grounds for them to discipline Mon-Fri people for not working on Saturday. In the national agreement, it spells it out that it was not for the company to be able to force seniority drivers to work on a weekend. They can ask for volunteers, but they can't force. It they do try to discipline, you are in the right to grieve it.I've been driving for 15 years. Every year the push to work Saturdays gets worse. There is no specific language where i'm at for a 6th punch. Last year i simply didn't call or bother showing when forced and nothing came of it. This year the BA is telling us to call out. So it's like rolling the dice everytime you don't call out whether or not they pursue disciplining you.
We didn't sign up for Tues-Sat work. Really frustrating. Before you know it they will try to force random Saturdays during random times during the year.
I believe what @BigUnionGuy is trying to say is. If your contract has language about 6th and 7th day work and pay rates you can be forced in.The only language about 6th or 7th punch is that 6th is 1.5x (OT) and 7th is 2x (DT) but we don't work on Sundays here so not sure how anybody could even get a 7th punch.
Good luck with that. I'm guessing you haven't talked to your steward or BA about this.Part time preload in South CA local 396 and they're making us work Saturdays too. Pretty sure we can tell them no if so inclined, according to the Western Supplemental, Article 20, Section 3, part a.
But most people in the building don't know they have to post the schedule for the next week on the prior Friday even.
Is that really true?I believe what @BigUnionGuy is trying to say is. If you contract has language about 6th and 7th day work and pay rates you can be forced in.
I don't know where you are but... I'm sure day after Thanksgiving is a holiday for you correct? Did Driver's have to work it?Is that really true?
I mean the other avenue that's probably gonna happen is that people will hit 60 hrs by the 5th punch anyways so then it becomes a "see you next week" kinda thing.
Yeah black friday is a holiday. 8 hr paid whether you work or not. But every veteran driver is coming in for sure for that DT pay in addition to that 8 hr holiday pay.I don't know where you are but... I'm sure day after Thanksgiving is a holiday for you correct? Did Driver's have to work it?
Also 60 hours by the end of of the 5th punch won't help you when it goes to 70 hours. 62.1 hours by the end of the 5th punch will help you though.
My point is were driver's forced in on Friday to work?Yeah black friday is a holiday. 8 hr paid whether you work or not. But every veteran driver is coming in for sure for that DT pay in addition to that 8 hr holiday pay.
There's just so much grey area regarding forced-ins. And I think it was probably by design. They know that accident rates go way up past normal overtime hours but don't want to explicitly spell out what they can and cannot do during peak.
Last year, manager told us Tues-Sat folk that Monday was mandatory for peak. I went to HR and was told that they cannot force us to come in Monday.
I have another job so I was stressed about the situation.
So now, my building did same as you describe, handed out sheet on Wed. before Thanksgiving.
Not sure anymore what to do..no HR..and I dont trust our union to have teeth.View attachment 319208