Saturday air driving break

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by cudwortho, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. cudwortho

    cudwortho New Member

    Long story short....If we get done early delivering on Saturday and have time to kill before doing Saturday pick ups we would go back to center or if some of us lived closed enough we would go home or find a spot offering free wi-fi & play on phones and get paid for this time. Sometimes I would get done at 10am before I had to start doing picks ups at noon. Now management says we need to code all that time as break so now we would not get paid for it. The whole day usually only takes around 6-7 hours. I was informed years ago all we had to do was take a 10min paid break and that was it. Now any & all down time between our last stop and our 1st pick up must be coded as break time. Is this correct? If so Saturdays just got a wee bit worse to do.
  2. Big Arrow Down...D

    Big Arrow Down...D Leave the gun,take the cannoli

    Work slower...
  3. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    No time spent waiting for a pickup is not break . They can keep you from driving off area to wait for those pick ups but not force you to take break
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  4. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    My building management is bringing in another driver at noon just to do pick ups.
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    How many stops are you doing that you are done at 10 am on a Saturday?

    Sounds like you have too many drivers on road.
  6. cudwortho

    cudwortho New Member

    We only have 2 drivers for Saturday, maybe 30-35 stops all together, but several are early am. Plus 1 of us has to run to the airport and drop off all the air pick ups. I don't always get done at 10am. On average I would say I finish up by 11:15am.
  7. Peppermint Patty

    Peppermint Patty Cardboard Pusher

    So if you are usually done at 1115 and your pickups start at noon. Why not take a lunch to avoid being on the radar. That driving off route to "play on your phone" would never fly in my center. Saturdays vary for guys here but if its a slower Saturday they take a 30 min lunch just to avoid what your going through. As we get closer to peak Saturdays will have no down time.
  8. Brisket

    Brisket Active Member

    You must be in a very small center, it's about 18 to as much as 22 in my center on Saturday . They have separate ppl to do picks.
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    Last edited: Sep 22, 2016
  9. cudwortho

    cudwortho New Member

    Talked to a union rep about this matter, he says they can't force me to take anymore then my 10min paid break, but can force a 50min lunch break. Any down time after that is fine. I assumed you didn't have to take a lunch break if you weren't on the clock for more then 8 hrs, but I guess not.
  10. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    No lunch for part time employees. If they want a lunch then they better pay you for 8 hrs
  11. hyena

    hyena Well-Known Member

    Have you read article 40?
  12. Brisket

    Brisket Active Member

    Where I am there is almost none now! Lol ... lots of deliveries on Saturday for us.
  13. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    If you are FT T-S, they can force you to take a lunch (between 3.5 and 5th hour here in NE), but all other time is paid. Also can force to use your breaks if you have them, if it's within the window of time. "dead time" is not your fault or problem. They tried this with me around 6 years ago, when I was FT 22.3 air and it didn't work out too well for UPS.
  14. Ed O'Ryan

    Ed O'Ryan New Member

    Do you really think you should get paid to play games on your phone? Good luck taking that to your Union rep.
    We have to do porter work, during any down time.
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    So you want him to come back to the building, sweep floors and then go back out to do his pickups?
  16. Ed O'Ryan

    Ed O'Ryan New Member

    I'm not telling him to do anything. I said that's what "we have to do". I should have added "at my center" to be more clear.
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    What you do is send a message that you have finished delivering and want to know what you should do until you start the pickups. Put the ball in their court.

    Do not take it upon yourself to find someplace to kill time.
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  18. MyTripisCut

    MyTripisCut Director of Shenanigans

    This was still the best response by far. Besides, who cares? You're building will have full time Saturday drivers soon, like mine, and getting done at 10 will be the least of your worries...
  19. cudwortho

    cudwortho New Member

    I read into article 40. Just to clarify I work M-F part time plus some Saturdays.

    (f) Break Periods

    (1) Full-time air drivers shall receive the same provisions for lunch and/or breaks as regular drivers receive in their Local Supplement, Rider or Addendum.

    (2) This provision is not intended to give less than eight (8) hour air drivers or less than eight (8) hour combination air drivers more than one (1) break unless specifically stated otherwise in the Local Supplement, Rider or Addendum.
  20. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    When I rate your posts as funny I'm laughing at you, not with you